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How many books are in YOUR Bible? I have heard there are 81 in the Ethiopian Bible. Which Bible is the Word of God? How can you be sure?

Posted - April 15, 2017

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  • 2217

    63, as is common among Western churches. Like most people I find it simplest to accept my own tradition. I have no ambition to become a biblical scholar at this late stage in my life.

    No doubt my Maker will reveal all to me soon enough.. 

     

     

      April 15, 2017 2:16 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Indeed. Thank you for your reply Malizz and  Happy Easter Sunday! :)
      April 16, 2017 5:09 AM MDT
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  • 1393
    63? All protestant Bibles have 66 books. The Roman Catholic one has 73 books.
      April 17, 2017 4:55 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Here's part of an interesting link:

    It would have been helpful to him if the apostles had sat down one dull night in the first century and decided this themselves: “Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are in. Gospels of Thomas and Judas—out!” It would also have been impossible, since many New Testament texts weren’t written until after that first generation of church leaders had died. Also, strange as it may seem, even the Hebrew scriptures we call the Old Testament had yet to be defined by the Jewish community. While we may think of Jesus carrying around a volume of Genesis through Maccabees in his backpack, neither he nor anyone of his time owned such a collection.

    What hastened the need to settle the biblical canon was simple practicality. As the Christian community gradually separated from its Jewish roots, it was vital to determine which of the many instructive texts scattered around the Mediterranean region would be binding for each group. The rabbis of Judaism fought their own canon skirmishes around the year 100, but some books written before the time of Jesus that didn’t make their final list had already proven useful to Jewish Christians.


    Heavy hitters among ancient theologians, such as Origen, Athanasius, and Jerome, argued for a shorter canon than Augustine, especially when it came to these Hebrew books. The 27 books Athanasius proposed for the New Testament were not much in dispute and remain standard today.

    It took the Council of Trent (1545-63) to define the Old Testament canon as inclusive of books that Protestant Reformers removed, including Tobit, Judith, Sirach, Wisdom, the Maccabees, and others. Today’s Bible owes a debt to these many ancient debates.

    http://www.uscatholic.org/church/2012/03/who-decided-which-books-made-it-bible
      April 15, 2017 3:25 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your very thoughtful, helpful, useful and informative analysis tom as well the link. I appreciate it a lot! Happy Sunday!  :)
      April 16, 2017 5:12 AM MDT
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  • How can one be sure of a god at all?  And  why the Bible? Perhaps the Gita, The Quran, The Book of Mormon?
      April 15, 2017 5:17 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    I was directing the question at Christians whistle since today is Easter Sunday. Is it significant to other religions? I don't know. Thank you for your 3 questions. Did I answer them?  Happy Sunday.
      April 16, 2017 5:08 AM MDT
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  • 1393

    How many books are in YOUR Bible? I have heard there are 81 in the Ethiopian Bible. Which Bible is the Word of God? How can you be sure?

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     1- Those are the kind of questions I have asked individual Christians when they say that I should accept the Bible as the word of God.

    2- As a student of Christianity I know that the Bible has a rich and varied history. If the book means anything to you then you might be interested in its history. Today we take it for granted that we have thousands of translations of the Bible in almost all languages and dialects but that itself has a rich history of its own; a history of struggles by individuals like John Wycliffe, John Huss and William Tyndale. They devoted their lives to translating the Bible and putting it in the hands of the ordinary people removing the monopoly of the church over access to the scripture. Wycliffe had his bones dug up from his grave, crushed, and scattered in the river, while the other two were burnt at the stake. Anyway, that’s just a tiny glimpse into the history of the translation of the Bible into English.

    3- Long before that was the canonisation process, deciding what books should be in the Bible. This too has a colourful history. The Bible which started life as a Jewish scripture is believed to have been an open canon from about 400 BCE. That means books could be added to it and removed from it by almost anyone. The scripture came to be known among Jews by the three Hebrew letters, Ta-Na-Kha [the letter Ta for the Torah, or Law, the Na for Nevi’im, or Prophets and Kha for the Ketuvim, or Writings.] What should constitute the Torah was decided first, followed by decision around 200 BCE on what books should form the Prophets, while it was probably about 200 years AFTER Jesus that the part referred to as the Writings was finalised. Those familiar with the sayings of Jesus will remember that it was only the first two parts of the Tanakh that Jesus mentioned in his declaration at Matthew 5:17, “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfil” So scripture, or the Bible, to Jesus and his disciples at that time, and for the first 100 years of early Christianity was whatever parts of the OT that had been canonised - most probably the 24 or so books that formed the first two parts of the Ta-Na-Kha, the Torah or Law and the Prophets

    4- What Christians call the NEW Testament took shape during the last years of the fourth century after Jesus. Most of its 27 books are the letters written by Paul. It also includes the four Gospels chosen from the many that were available at the time. Apparently it was Irenaeus of Lyons, c. 185 who insisted that there must be four gospels in the Bible, neither more nor less, because the earth had four corners. However, there were still disputes over the inclusion of certain books, in particular Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, and Revelation. This collection was officially approved in 393 in the west. It was the fifth century when the eastern churches accepted the NT however some still had reservations about the inclusion of Revelations.

    5- We have thus ended up with 84-book Eastern Orthodox Bibles, 81-book Ethiopian Bibles, 73-book Catholic Bibles 66-book Protestant Bibles and, if the scriptures Jesus taught from was also a Bible then, there was a Bible with far fewer books than the Protestant Bibles. Even if we decide upon the Protestant Bibles to be the true Holy Bible we're faced with so many different versions all claiming to be The Bible. So having walked into a Bible store wanting to purchase a copy of The Bible, the word of God, which one do we buy?

      April 17, 2017 4:43 PM MDT
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