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What would you do /say in this position?

As a child care provider or nanny.. during your break time (nap for baby) would you extend yourself above most duties discussed for the job? I am interested in a position that dseems to fit well for hours I'm searching , and perhaps pay, but the parents are already asking that the nanny do other things that are not 'expected' of her...during naps. In previous positions, this is the most down time a nanny would have in a day- a 10 hour day. Folding laundry is definitely something I've always open to or putting away dishes, but as far as other tasks around the house, I'm not sure it is really included in the pay (it is not) and I'm there for the CHILD, not to be a housekeeper when they nap..I used to be an assistant teacher so I'm great at including one on one educational activites /abc's/music/reading during the day... and while I don't mind some laundry here or there, I just don't know how to approach this 'do more during her nap time' philosophy - how do you go about saying this to a parent?

Posted - April 25, 2017

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  • 32692
    I would tell them this is my rate for being a nanny. And this is my rate for being a nanny/housekeeper. (If you are willing to do housekeeping)
      April 25, 2017 2:26 PM MDT
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  • 1138
    Thanks friend.. I know that housekeepers make a few bucks MORE even than nannies.. it is strange. So when she said she wants someone who does a bit more than expected (to that effect) I just thought I'd do that actually on my own, but when it is now expected that I'm doing housework too, in addition to a small toddler, it just put a negative side to it. I think a lot of parents are simply looking for someone to keep their house Tidy so they don't have to do much when they get home.. I'm not there to look after your floors and toilets etc... I actually don't have a rate for nanny/housekeeper b/c I've never done it, but I have a feeling when I say that the parent will decline- but that IS what she (I believe ) is looking for :/  Thanks friend I have trouble speaking up and often people take advantage of me.. have a nic eone... :)
      April 25, 2017 2:37 PM MDT
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  • 6477
    I think you have kinda answered your own question in that you know what is right and what's wrong... you know that you need downtime if you are going to be able to give your best to the child... if you are tired and overworked you are not going to be the best nanny you can be.. You could explain that to the parents? or you could just explain that a housekeeper is a housekeeper, a nanny is there for the child.. 
      April 25, 2017 3:36 PM MDT
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  • 7919
    It was always my understanding that, if a person is getting hourly pay and is "on the clock," they should be doing something to earn the pay. When I was a teen and doing babysitting, I cleaned the house after the child went to bed. I'd wash dishes, scrub the kitchen, do the floors, whatever, simply because I was getting paid to be there. When did daycare, it was in my home, so that wasn't an issue. When I hired help to take care of my disabled mom (I was lucky enough to be able to pay a caregiver for a few hours each Sunday, so I could sleep or work uninterrupted), we set clear expectations in our contract. She got a set pay per day, rather than hourly, and I asked her to try to take a real break (30 minutes or whatever) when my mom was taking a nap. I also told her to grab two 15-minute breaks whenever it fit into the schedule. Those are the standard breaks required of companies, so I went with it because it seemed reasonable. She structured her own day around her needs and my mom's and I considered providing companionship working, even if they were just sitting there watching TV. Aside from the breaks, I asked her to stay busy when she wasn't with my mom, and she did. Boy did she ever. My house was never as clean as it was than when that woman was there as a caregiver. I never asked her to do anything specifically- just to stay busy when she wasn't on a break.

    From a caregiver/ nanny standpoint, I think M2C gave good advice, but I also think you should negotiate your contract and set expectations from the beginning. You should set your pay according to what you're willing to do and make sure the parents understand what you'll be doing and when. Most parents won't ever manage or hire someone aside from a caregiver/ babysitter, so they won't understand the nuances. You'll need to take the lead.

    Your question also reminds me of when I worked in a dental office. I was a dental assistant and went to school for it. We did lots of patient care activities- assisting the dentist, taking x-rays, getting patients ready, some minor treatments, etc. And, then we had side work, like cleaning and sterilizing instruments. I'll never forget the day I was cleaning up after a long day of patients. I had a new dental assistant shadowing me and was going room to room collecting the trash bags to take out. I asked her to grab one while I did the other and she refused. "I didn't go to school to take out trash," she said. She didn't work at that office for very long. We all do crap we don't like to do alongside our primary jobs. It's a fact of life. Adulting. It would be very unwise to refuse to do side work in any job, but you should be compensated fairly for it.
      April 25, 2017 4:50 PM MDT
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  • 1138
    Exactly saying 'I don't do trash' would be a bit overboard!! Wow. Also, that was a great arrangement you made with the caregiver for your mom and you didn't put any specific thing on her, yet she went and did various things. The thing with nannying is, there is a short window of 2 hours (maybe 3 sometimes) where the baby might sleep .. it is typically an 8 hour day or 10 hours total. In that short 2 hours, the nanny gets her hour break and the other hour really should not be crammed with household tasks in order to seem like you are 'working'... it is nonstop all day, no 15 min breaks ... and you are cleaning after the child all day while going along too.. in addition to being their nurse, friend, teacher and almost mom...however in an extra hour I may get, I do folding laundry for a portion of the time, or unloading dishwasher..so I liked what you said, if you DO do more, it should be compensated a couple more (most parents do not seem willing to do that) ....You seem fair JA :) 
      April 25, 2017 6:29 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    I am probably not going to be much help; but I can tell you as a parent, I'm on your side here.  If you are taking care of my young toddler, I expect you to clean the area around the diaper, but not to extend your work into the master bathroom.

    If I trust you to be vigilant and care from my child, I am willing to pay you for that, rather than make you a utility employee, serving wherever I say I need you and doing whatever I need done.

    On the other hand, if you are willing to do a few things around the house, I would be willing to pay you ad hoc for such work.
      April 25, 2017 5:33 PM MDT
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  • 1138
    Thanks Tom ! I'm very willing to clean up our play area, toys, books, unload dishwasher on a break or fold laundry as well....its just this person made it clear she wants someone who goes 'above' and honestly for nannies' to be doing  your dishes too and laundry for child IS going beyond their learning and care. Not every nanny will do laundry but If it's there on my break I'll do it- when a parent says UP FRONT they want even 'more' than those things on my break , it just sent a red flag :/  Thank you for saying you would also want your nanny there for the CHILD , thier safety, learning, interaction etc. Thanks for replying  :)
      April 25, 2017 6:17 PM MDT
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  • 10523
    That part about "doing things not expected of a nanny" sounds a bit broad - like they might be expecting you to rack the leafs in the yard or clean the gutters. It's been a long time since I had to look after a toddler but if I recall they might be napping one moment then up and getting into mischief or danger the next moment. So I figure as a Nanny you have to always have the child in sight and ear shot. Ideally as a Nanny well the child naps you should be making a sock puppet for a fun activity when the kid awakens or preparing nutritious snacks or lunches. Cheers!
      April 25, 2017 7:27 PM MDT
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  • I worked as an au pair once, supposed to be helping out with two children and going to language school for half of the day.  I was there a week and the parents took off for ten days, when they wanted me to clean carpets I found another job fast.  I was too young to insist that certain things were not what I was being paid for so I would strongly urge you to have a conversation with the parents as to exactly what you're prepared to do.
    Taking care of a toddler is in itself a full time job, they have more energy than an entire football team so you should be prepared to do things toddler related, perhaps doing the baby laundry but not cleaning the house that's something they should pay a housekeeper to do or pay you a lot more than a nanny's pay.
    Look at it another way, how much would it cost them to put the toddler in daycare?  That should be your guide as to how much you should be making for child care alone.

      April 25, 2017 9:34 PM MDT
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  • 1138
    Thanks Yoga as always. I think I might decline the offer b/c I can sense the job is more about what other tasks you are doing or can do than the child's care, and learning. If I get that sense within only the first few sentences of the description, I kind of feel a red flag... it stinks b/c it was full time and offered benefits and I haven't seen many posts with families offering benefits in addition. I thouht 'maybe' I could try it, or do a meet and greet at least , but when she said 'our other nanny found ways and little things to do on nap time to go above her duties' I felt, she wants mainly housekeeping and tidiness rather than discussing the child's routine or what I enjoy most when interacting with kids... ty so much for your reply and you are right, a housekeeper does make typically more than a nanny :/
      April 25, 2017 10:29 PM MDT
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  • 22891
    i think you should do whatever the parent wants you to do if youre working for them
      April 27, 2017 4:35 PM MDT
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