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  • Listening to all the conversations around me and reading the comments on here has saddened me to the core of my very essence. Yes, we have a new president elect, no, he's not the best choice, but neither was his opponent. People have said he will encourage white people to start assaulting black people, his wife is going to start making schools serve nothing but ice cream, he embraced the KKK. None of these statements are true. Please people, stop spreading the fiction. As Americans we need to be more united now than ever. We need each other, we need to stand together and not divided. When Obama was elected in 2008 people were saying that blacks would be encouraged to start assaulting white people, that he wasn't even eligible to be president because he wasn't born here, that he's Muslim, that he will enact martial law on us. None of that was true either. Trump may not be the best option, but he was elected. Four years from now we will see that things will pretty much be the same as they are now. He will have advisers and others who will let him know what can and can not be done. Yes, he will do things that some will not like and things that some will like, just like every president before him and every president after him. I am not defending him or sticking up for him in any way, just trying to get some people to calm down. I do not believe he will reverse gay marriage rights, if he does try, I'll be right there with the protesters. I don't think he will lead us into WW III. That is not something he can do on his own. He is just a man, he has no super powers. He is not the anti Christ either, people said that about Reagan and Obama as well. We, as Americans, will get through this. We will survive this and we will be OK. We are a nation of strong people and no one can take that away from us. We need to be proud of who we are and stop looking for demons around every corner.




  • Artful_Dodger


    Well said, I agree with your viewpoint!

    November 14, 2016 - 1 likes this

  • Karen
    Karen Artful_Dodger
    Thank you.  
    November 14, 2016

  • Wisdom Tooth
    Wisdom Tooth
    I agree with your statements. 
    All said and done,  Mr Trump is only human, and at bottom nothing like the devil he's made out to be. Yes, he has made mistakes during his campaign, but which of us hasn't said or done things we wish we hadn't. 
    The man should be given a fair chance to do his work in office. The system of checks and balances which has worked very well since its inception will effectively curb any action perceived to be violative of the Constitution and ensure that core American values will not be compromised, while at the same time safeguarding American interests.
    Many are pained at the outcome of the election and fearful of the future. But time has always been the greatest healer, and patience is what is needed most at present. 
    Though not a citizen of America, I am her well-wisher. 

    November 14, 2016 - 1 likes this

  • Karen
    Karen Wisdom Tooth
    Thank you. We need all the well wished we can get right now. 
    November 15, 2016

  • goody2shoos
    Hello Karen:

    We DO need to come together..  But, it ain't gonna happen as long as Trump appoints a fellow like Steve Bannon, alt-right spokesperson and white nationalist, as his Chief Strategist in the White House..

    Which he just DID..


    November 14, 2016 - 1 likes this

  • Karen
    Karen goody2shoos
    I saw that today, wasn't real happy about it. That is not doing a lot to build trust. I'm trying my best to stay optimistic about gets harder each day.
    November 15, 2016

  • Zenobia
    Your constitution gives you some checks and balances.
    The Legislative Branch can override presidential vetoes with a two-thirds vote, has the power over the purse strings to actually fund any executive actions, and can remove the president through impeachment. The Senate must approve treaties and presidential appointments.
    The Supreme Court can negate new laws if they are unconstitutional.

    In addition, a staff of advisors and strong international pressures can also make a difference.

    People power could also be persuasive if extremely well-run debates and campaigns are run to influence swell of popular opinion.
    The trick would be to avoid aggressive and insulting language and deal only with the short and long term consequences of policies, using evidence from US history and other countries to show what happens.

    Take heart, Marguerite. The USA has some brilliant brains, coteries and think-tanks of the world's best. Imagine Noam Chamsky and Peter SInger putting their heads together with a few others...

    November 15, 2016 - 2 like this

  • Karen
    Karen Zenobia
    I agree with all you have said. He's not going to just be turned loose. He has people he will have to answer to, and not just be able to do as he pleases. 

    November 15, 2016

  • Zenobia
    Zenobia Karen
    Woops, Karen. Sorry about the wrong name. (
    November 15, 2016 - 1 likes this

  • Karen
    Karen Zenobia
    That's ok. :) 
    November 15, 2016

  • LyricalOne
    I really am sorry that the conversations and comments have affected you so deeply. And it's certainly true that Clinton was a deeply flawed candidate. Almost any other Democrat would likely have won the election. But Trump is an absolute nightmare and a complete embarrassment. The thought of people from other countries looking down on us and painting us all with the same brush is truly sickening. Who are we as a nation, as individuals, when we can elect such a man to the highest office in America?

    There's no need to spread any fiction because his own words and actions betray him time and again. He's a racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamaphobe and overall bigot. He calls women pigs and bimbos, brags about grabbing their private parts, makes fun of the disabled, and was fined for refusing to rent apartments to Black people, asking his building managers to put a "C" (for colored) on their applications and "lose" them in a drawer. He was able to buy his way out of that as he just bought his way out of the Trump University case by spending millions of dollars on reimbursements and penalties. He seems to feel that not having to admit guilt means he's not guilty, a moral code by which he lives his life.

    He was also accused of raping a 13 year old girl and was due in court on December 16th but the (now) young woman mysteriously dropped the case at the last minute. I also find it very hard to believe that each of the 10+ women claiming he sexually assaulted them were lying. Who knows how many others are out there but would never put themselves in the position of going up against the rich and powerful Trump.

    The man who spent a week denigrating a Gold Star family whose son heroically lost his life fighting in Iraq. But given all these things, I think what got me most of all was his saying that he didn't consider John McCain a war hero. I recently saw a show about McCain. I knew he was a POW but didn't realize that he spent over five years in captivity in Vietnam, including time spent at the infamous Hanoi Hilton. Yet after all that, he somehow had the strength not only to endure but prosper, creating a very successful life. I actually got teary thinking about how Trump, who spent not one day in the military, could unapologetically disrespect McCain like that. It just spoke volumes about his lack of character, morality and decency. Not someone I would ever want representing me or this country.

    And if all that wasn't bad enough, Trump knows absolutely nothing about national and foreign policy. Even worse, nothing about basic nuclear terminology while at the same time having few qualms about using nuclear weapons. He literally said he wouldn't rule out dropping a nuclear bomb on Europe. Add to that his lack of diplomacy and the thin skin which had him spending a week tweeting about a Miss Universe from 20 years ago because she was mean to him, and you've gotten very close to a perfect storm. The demons are not around every corner. They're here among us. The man is ignorant, he's dangerous, and he's certainly not the right person to bring change to America, not the kind of change people want and deserve. About all we can do now is hope and pray that he doesn't do too much lasting damage.

    November 19, 2016 - 3 like this

  • Karen
    Karen LyricalOne
    I also mean how people are talking to each other. The hate and division people have allowed to happen among themselves. We were already on the path to division, now, that path has turned into an 8 lane highway. That needs to be fixed and fixed quickly, or there is no hope for America. We really need to come together right now and try to prevent as collateral damage as we can. 
    November 19, 2016

  • goody2shoos
    goody2shoos Karen
    Hello again, Karen:

    It's even WORSE than it was when I posted the above.  With Trumps recent picks, it's becoming clearer and clearer, there's not gonna BE a coming together.  In fact, we're coming APART.  I'm afraid for my country.

    1.  Sheriff Clark, a contender for Homeland Security Director, TWEETED the protesting MUST BE QUELLED. 

    2.  When Trump moves to CREATE his Muslim database, (or any number of things he said he'd do), civil disobedience will accelerate.

    3.  At some point, Trump WILL move to QUELL the demonstrations.

    4.  Rather than QUELL the demonstrations, they will accelerate further.

    5.  Civil society breaks down.

    6.  (a)  Marshal law is implemented..

         (b) Trump is impeached.

    I HOPE I'm wrong.  But, I ain't.


    November 19, 2016 - 2 like this

  • Karen
    Karen goody2shoos
    That's what I'm afraid of the most. I live in a predominately black neighborhood, and I even though the craziness hasn't been bad in Nashville, I'm afraid of it escalating. We've had protests here, but they haven't turned into riots. The police even provide the protesters with hot chocolate, they protect them. I have been trying to keep a stiff upper lip and just roll with it, but the appointment of Bannon and taken a lot of wind out of my sails. I agree 100% that something needs to be done about the illegals here, but a database in not a good thing. He does have some good ideas, but I don't think he's going to go about implementing them in a positive way. I like the idea of tighter boarders, revamping Obama Care with something the average person can afford and bringing outsourced jobs back. If he can do this without causing chaos, I'll be very happy. Not real sure I see that happening though. 
    November 19, 2016 - 1 likes this

  • LyricalOne
    LyricalOne Karen
    I agree Karen. It's gotten very ugly, very frustrating and potentially very dangerous. How to fix it is the 64 million dollar question. Thus far, the President-elect's decisions are only increasing the divisiveness. He doesn't seem to understand (or care) that about half the voters were diametrically opposed to everything he stood for and thus is making no accommodation for them. Those who thought it was a good idea having a businessman run the country might not have taken into account that this businessman runs his companies like a dictatorship with little concern for morals, ethics and the opinions of others. Looks like he wants to run the country the same way.
    November 19, 2016 - 1 likes this

  • bookerdana
    I appreciate your viewpoint but honestly I don't think its the same,and with the nuclear football starting WWIII IS something he can do by himself!
    March 1 - 1 likes this