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U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson extends the lockdown "for now". He is a lot smarter than da big cheese isn't he? Didja know?

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Posted - May 11, 2020

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  • 2706
    So, are you advocating a permanent shutdown of the United States? It seems most Democrats are. Destroying people is what Democrats do best! Being a member of the Democrat Party means checking one’s ethics at the door because politics to them is a total blood sport! However, who would have ever believed the Democrat machine wouldn’t be able to smear, besmirch, malign, and destroy a Republican (Donald Trump)? This sort of failure is just not acceptable to Democrats.

     Contrary to what Democrats would love for you to believe, most Americans are demanding a return to the old ways of life where we lived in peace, tranquility, and love. A time when we loved one another, wanted the best for everyone and worked hard to make our lives better for the next generations.

     Today’s Democrats are lost. They are wandering in the wilderness falsely believing they have the only path to nirvana! Well, at least their rendition of it. What Nancy Pelosi and her ilk don’t understand is that being a Patriot means standing ‘up’ for America – not tearing Her down! They can’t even understand that scenario. For Democrats, it’s now left is right, white is black, citizens are scum, and illegal aliens are their savior. Money and power are all that matters.
      May 11, 2020 11:29 AM MDT
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  • 6477
    It's not a permanent shut down. That's hyperbole!
      May 11, 2020 1:55 PM MDT
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  • 13251
    That's hyperbole and the question isn't?
      May 11, 2020 4:23 PM MDT
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  • 2706
    :)
      May 12, 2020 9:47 AM MDT
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  • 2706
    Tell that to the governor of Michigan (my state) as she merrily extended the shutdown yet again until the end of May. She said it should be longer but they will move ahead by bits and pieces. What's next, until the end of June?

    What concerns me even more about this shutdown is the odd and unnecessary rules attached to it. Such as if a resident owns a vacation home that is located out of state, they are allowed to travel there. If, however, their vacation home is located within the state of Michigan, they may not. What sense does that possibly make? No public and private gatherings "of any size" are allowed. What, two people standing six feet apart can't gather to talk?

      She also ordered Home Depot and Lowe’s stores to close off certain departments which she considers to be nonessential, such as seeds, plants and shrubs, flooring, and paint. People are forced to remain in their homes, but the Governor won’t allow them to purchase materials to work on projects? It gets even better. Her answer to this ban was because there was snow on the ground.

    She said: “The fact that we’re cracking down on people traveling between homes or planting, or landscaping or golfing, really for a couple more weeks, isn’t going to meaningfully impact people’s ability to do it because the snow will do that in and of itself."

      It’s okay everyone! Whitmer’s dictatorial leadership is justified because there’s snow in Michigan. Huh? But then what do expect from a person who promised to fix the roads, build bridges, and improve healthcare access but all we’ve gotten are failed tax increases, political games that used children and critical services as negotiating pawns, and Whitmer’s embrace of Medicare-for-all.

     
      May 12, 2020 11:45 AM MDT
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  • 6477
    Tee hee I'd tell the governor of Michigan - but I suspect they wouldn't listen to me :P We were very lucky I think in that we had glorious spring weather here.
      May 12, 2020 1:27 PM MDT
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  • 14795
    I might have to change my view of Basher Boris if he has...:) 
      May 11, 2020 11:55 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Methinks mayhap he has "grown" into the job D. That is what ideally happens. Thank you for your reply and Happy Tuesday to thee! :)
      May 12, 2020 2:15 AM MDT
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  • 6477
    Boris is a prawn, a pillock.. an idiot.. but, compared to Trump he is a genius lol and a lot more stable! I think the greatest asset Boris has is that he is very human. He comes across as human, honest and very genuine. He cares, truly cares and he truly has the best interests of the people at heart. We insist on this. He might not get it right all the time, who does, but he really does try!

    I frequently say this, but when Boris was elected Mayor of London years ago, I was convinced that people voted for him as a joke, for a laugh - it's the kind of thing Brits would do.  Boris was a joke.  Had he not got lucky there, no one would have heard of him, so he was quite lucky there!
      May 11, 2020 2:00 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    As I said to Nice Jugs Addb I think he may have "grown into the job". That's what we hope happens to presidents. It did before for us. Not this time. Da big cheese has zero interest in changing learning growing. But I think Boris is cut from a different cloth. A better grade. Thank you for your thoughtful and KNOWLEDGEABLE reply and Happy Tuesday to thee and thine! :)
      May 12, 2020 2:17 AM MDT
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  • 14795
    I kind if think he is growing into the job....He seems to be the only one of them all with any common sense...Thing is ,they are going to begin opening schools again in two or three weeks time...no way are they going to keep kids apart and I would thing round two of the bug spreading again will be on us all then to...
      May 12, 2020 4:35 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I said that in another thread this morning D. I think he is whereas da big cheese is the same exact jacka** he always was only fatter and older and duller and meaner. Thank you for your reply! :)
      May 12, 2020 4:55 AM MDT
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  • 1305
    Boris has still made changes Rosie, we can now go out for as much exercise as we like, even travel out the area, so long as we keep social distancing rule, can picnic, and sunbathe so long as people are from our household.
    All people that cannot work from home, now should go to work if work in manufacturing etc.
    Garden centres are now open.
    The recycling and rubbish tips are now opening by appointment only.
    You can meet with one person outside your household so long as you keep social distancing rule.
    You can help elderly or vulnerable so long as you are not displaying symptoms.

    We had just over 200 deaths in last 24 hours. Total now at just over 32,000, the highest in Europe.

    But Boris has yet to suggest injecting disinfectant, or getting UV light inside the body, however he did describe the coronavirus as a mugger, which isn't really a great description since we knew about this mugger back in December and didn't do anything.



    This post was edited by kjames at May 12, 2020 1:30 PM MDT
      May 11, 2020 4:11 PM MDT
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  • 32527
    Cedars Sinai is using UV light inside the body. 
      May 11, 2020 4:26 PM MDT
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  • 1305
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200327-can-you-kill-coronavirus-with-uv-light

    Quote: Can you kill coronavirus with UV light?

    There’s only one type of UV that can reliably inactivate Covid-19 – and it’s extremely dangerous.

    You would literally be frying people,” says Dan Arnold, laughing in disbelief. 

    Arnold works for UV Light Technology, a company that provides disinfecting equipment to hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and food manufacturers across the UK. Recently, as the global anxiety about Covid-19 has reached extraordinary new heights, he’s found himself fielding some unusual requests.

    “We had an enquiry from a private individual about our equipment, saying ‘Well, why can't we just get one of your UV lights and put it up on the exit to the supermarket – people can stand under it for a few seconds before they go in’,” he says.

    Among the abundant “health” advice that has been swarming around the internet in recent weeks, the idea that you can disinfect your skin, clothing or other objects with UV light has proved extremely popular – and even been mentioned by the US President. 

    So is this a good way to protect yourself from Covid-19? And is it true that since “the new coronavirus hates the sun”, sunshine will immediately kill it, as some reports on social media have claimed?

    In short: no. Here’s why. 

    Dangerous rays

    Sunlight contains three types of UV. First there is UVA, which makes up the vast majority of the ultraviolet radiation reaching the Earth’s surface. It’s capable of penetrating deep into the skin and is thought to be responsible for up to 80% of skin ageing, from wrinkles to age spots.

    Next there’s UVB, which can damage the DNA in our skin, leading to sunburn and eventually skin cancer (recently scientists have discovered that UVA can also do this). Both are reasonably well known, and can be blocked out by most good sun creams.

    There is also a third type: UVC. This relatively obscure part of the spectrum consists of a shorter, more energetic wavelength of light. It is particularly good at destroying genetic material – whether in humans or viral particles. Luckily, most of us are unlikely to have ever encountered any. That’s because it’s filtered out by ozone in the atmosphere long before it reaches our fragile skin.

    Or that was the case, at least, until scientists discovered that they could harness UVC to kill microorganisms. Since the finding in 1878, artificially produced UVC has become a staple method of sterilisation – one used in hospitals, airplanes, offices, and factories every day. Crucially, it’s also fundamental to the process of sanitising drinking water; some parasites are resistant to chemical disinfectants such as chlorine, so it provides a failsafe.

    Though there hasn’t been any research looking at how UVC affects Covid-19 specifically, studies have shown that it can be used against other coronaviruses, such as Sars. The radiation warps the structure of their genetic material and prevents the viral particles from making more copies of themselves.

    However, it's not quite as good as we might have hoped. In a recent study – which looked at whether UVC could be used to disinfect PPE – the authors found that, while it is possible to kill the virus this way, in one experiment it needed the highest exposure out of hundreds of viruses that have been looked at so far. The amount of ultraviolet required varied widely, depending on factors such as the shape and type of material the virus was on.  

    Nevertheless, a concentrated form of UVC is now on the front line in the fight against Covid-19. In China, whole buses are being lit up by the ghostly blue light each night, while squat, UVC-emitting robots have been cleaning floors in hospitals. Banks have even been using the light to disinfect their money. 

    At the same time, UV equipment suppliers have reported record sales, with many urgently stepping up production to fill their orders. Arnold says UV Light Technology has run out of all of its equipment already.

    But there’s a major caveat.

    UVC is really nasty stuff – you shouldn't be exposed to it – Dan Arnold

    UVC is really nasty stuff – you shouldn't be exposed to it,” says Arnold. “It can take hours to get sunburn from UVB, but with UVC it takes seconds. If your eyes are exposed… you know that gritty feeling you get if you look at the sun? It’s like that times 10, just after a few seconds.”

    To use UVC safely, you need specialist equipment and training. The World Health Organization (WHO) has issued a stern warning against people using UV light to sterilise their hands or any other part of their skin. 

    During the White House briefing on Thursday, the US president suggested that UV light could be brought inside the body to kill the coronavirus. It's not clear which type he meant, but given what we know about the damage UVA, UVB and UVC can do to genetic material and living tissues, this would be a bad idea – let alone impractical, since Covid-19 mostly infects the lungs.

    Recently, scientists have discovered a promising new type of UVC which is less dangerous to handle, and still lethal to viruses and bacteria. Far-UVC has a shorter wavelength than regular UVC, and so far, experiments with human skin cells in the lab have shown that it doesn’t damage their DNA (more research is needed to be sure).

    On the other hand, bacteria and viruses don’t come off as well, because they are small enough for the light to reach. One study found that it could prevent mouse wounds from becoming infected with the superbug MRSA, while another found that it could kill flu viruses suspended in the air.

    However, the vast majority of the UVC lamps on the market don’t use far-UVC yet – and again, it hasn’t been tested in actual humans, just on our cells in petri dishes and other animals. So this type of radiation probably won’t help you during the current pandemic either.

    Sunshine solution?

    Would UVA or UVB work instead? And if so, does this mean you can disinfect things by leaving them out in the sun?

    The short answer: possibly – but you wouldn’t want to rely on it.

    In the developing world, sunlight is already a popular means of sterilising water – it’s even recommended by the World Health Organisation (WHO). The technique involves pouring the water into a clear glass or plastic bottle, and leaving it out in the sun for six hours. It’s thought to work because the UVA in sunlight reacts with dissolved oxygen to produce unstable molecules such as hydrogen peroxide, the active ingredient in many household disinfectants, which can damage pathogens.

    Without water, sunlight will still help to disinfect surfaces – but it may take longer than you’d think. 

    The problem is we don’t know how long, because it’s still too soon for many studies to have been done on the new coronavirus.

    Just before President Trump's comments about UV light on Thursday, William Bryan, a science and technology advisor at the Department of Homeland Security, presented some results from a study they have conducted into whether sunlight can kill the pathogen.

    They found that when the virus was suspended in the air, its half-life – the amount of time it takes to deactivate half the particles in a particular sample – in “ordinary conditions” (20% humidity and a temperature of 70-75F (21.1-23.9C)) was around an hour. When they added sunlight into the equation, that shrank to just one and a half minutes.

    However, the study results have so far only been alluded to in the briefing and a leaked report – they have not been officially published or peer-reviewed. It's also not clear what wavelength or intensity of light they used in the study. Until we have more details and the results have been properly scrutinised, it’s important to view them with caution.

    In the meantime, other viruses can provide some clues. 

    Research on Sars – a close relative of Covid-19 – found that exposing the virus to UVA for 15 minutes had no impact on how infectious it was. However, the study didn’t look at longer exposures, or UVB, which is known to be more damaging to genetic material.  

    Then there’s the flu. When scientists analysed hospital admission records in Brazil, they found that the number of flu cases tended to go up during the burning season, when there is more smoke in the atmosphere from forest fires and the UV in sunlight is diluted.

    Another study found that the longer flu particles were exposed to sunlight for – and the more concentrated it was – the less likely they were to remain infectious. Alas, the study looked at flu suspended in the air, rather than dried onto objects.  

    No one knows how long it takes to deactivate Covid-19 with sunlight, or what strength is needed

    All this means that using sunlight to disinfect surfaces is extremely problematic. 

    First of all, no one knows how long it takes to deactivate Covid-19 with sunlight, or what strength is needed. And even if they did, the amount of UV in sunlight varies depending on the time of day, the weather, the season, and where in the world you live – especially which latitude – so this wouldn’t be a reliable way to kill the virus. 

    Finally, it goes without saying that disinfecting your skin with any kind of UV will lead to damage, and increase your risk of skin cancer.

    And once the virus is inside your body, no amount of UV is going to have any impact on whether you’re infected.




      May 12, 2020 11:18 AM MDT
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  • 32527
    TLDR....All I know is a creditable medical institution is testing it rigjt now.   If you disagree...take it up with Cedars-Sinai. 
      May 12, 2020 4:09 PM MDT
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  • 32527
      May 12, 2020 7:34 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for a knowledgeable and very informative reply kj. As an outsider I am very favorably impressed. He is growing into the job because he apparently and obviously CARES about the people. Which trait is something we in America don't have in da big cheese. Well you win some and you lose some. I think Brits are winners on this score absolutely and well for other reasons too. Happy Tuesday to you and yours m'dear! :)
      May 12, 2020 2:20 AM MDT
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  • 6477
    To be fair Rosie, Boris is a twerp, but he has never been anywhere near on the scale of Trump. He can speak intelligibly sometimes whereas Trump cannot :P
      May 12, 2020 1:33 PM MDT
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  • 537
    Not really. Britain was one of the last countries in the world to impose a quarantine on new arrivals in the country, and was also very slow to impose flight bans even from heavily infected countries. 

    The kindest thing I can say about our Government's response (compared to that of the Trump administration) is that they have generally been better at communicating, and have on the whole refrained from giving nonsensical advice or sending out blatantly contradictory messages.

    Happy Tuesday (once again having to exert the grey matter to remind myself it's not Wednesday!)
      May 11, 2020 11:12 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Hi there Rev. Forgive an outsider's presumptuous addition but I truly believe Boris Johnson CARES ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE. Certainly in contrast and by comparison to da big cheese who only ever cares about himself. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and Happy Tuesday to thee and thine. All is well with you and your family hopefully m'dear! :) This post was edited by RosieG at May 13, 2020 3:33 AM MDT
      May 12, 2020 2:23 AM MDT
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  • 10449
    Awile back Johnson tested positive for the coronavirus which is probally a scary thing to go throgh. So I think he will use that fear to do everything in his power to help keep the people of the UK protected. Cheers!
      May 12, 2020 10:04 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I believe it was touch-and-go for him for awhile Nanoose. I think he was in the ICU as they fought to save his life. That must have an impact. Now that the virus lives in the White House I see no change in da big cheese. He is a rock. Thank you for your reply and Happy Wednesday! :)
      May 13, 2020 2:28 AM MDT
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