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If the first rally after a 3-month hiatus in a solid red state had that low a turnout what can trump expect in states that are marginal?

Posted - June 21, 2020

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  • 32527
    The large expected turnout caused some not to bother thinking they would not get in.  Some have reporter not being able to get through the website to get the ticket to start with.   

    The rally that counts is this Nov and trust me people will get there for it.
      June 21, 2020 4:33 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Trust you?---on what particular basis should we do that?
      June 21, 2020 4:36 PM MDT
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  • 32527
    I called it correctly last time.

    And I have not met 1 Trump voter who is supporting Biden. 
    I know anti-Hillary voters who are now Trump supporters. 
      June 21, 2020 5:10 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    You had a 50-50 chance of being right last time---So "calling" it correctly or a "lucky" guess is an equally probable explanation---

    All we have to go on is the insight you offer in your other answers and comments on this site, so.....

      June 22, 2020 12:16 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      June 22, 2020 3:16 AM MDT
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  • 19942
    Clearly, this guy got a ticket.

     

    Large sections of the auditorium were empty
    Large sections of the auditorium were empty
      June 21, 2020 4:36 PM MDT
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  • 32527

    As did these thousands of people for Trump. 

    And these dozen for Biden.
      June 21, 2020 5:12 PM MDT
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  • 19942
    Why do you keep bringing up Biden.  Do you think that makes it better that Trump only filled 1/3 of the arena?  I guess for the same reason you keep bringing up Clinton and Obama.  Because you can't really defend the indefensible without making it appear that someone else is as bad or worse.
      June 21, 2020 10:29 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      June 22, 2020 3:17 AM MDT
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  • 32527
    Look at the pict that obviously more than 1/3 of the arena. 

    Tne fire marshall said 6200 tickets scanned but the special suites (nearly 40 of them) would not have been scanned. And any political people and their staff would not have been scanned.  So there is your difference. 

    This is also assuming they scanned every persons ticket.  I know the rally I went to they did not scan my nor my husband's tickets. 

    The point is while Trump may have pulled in less than expected it is still thousands more than Biden pulled in.  And Biden as the presumptive nominee is a valid comparison to anything mentioned about President Trump. 
      June 22, 2020 6:01 AM MDT
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  • 19942
    I'm guessing you don't take into consideration the fact that Biden doesn't choose venues that hold 19,000 people if he holds a rally.  The point is, and I am saying this for the last time, that Trump bragged that he would have a million people at his Oklahoma rally.  He made a big deal about an overflow crowd that would have to be held outside, but that had to be cancelled because not only was there no overflow,  there were thousands of seats unfilled inside.  And now, I'm done with this because you absolutely refuse to see the point that Trump does not seem to be the draw that he once was.    
      June 22, 2020 9:58 AM MDT
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  • 19942
    FYI - the Fire Department did not use scanned tickets to determine how many people entered the arena.  They used the number of people who went through the turnstiles, so even if your ticket wasn't scanned, the body count was accurate based on turnstile entry and I can't imagine that the people in the suites didn't go through the turnstiles.
      June 22, 2020 11:04 AM MDT
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  • 32527
    Wrong the statement by the Firemarshall said the 6200 was the number of tickets scanned. And that private suits and political staff etc were not scanned.   Suites have a private entrance.

    NYTIMES:
    This post was edited by my2cents at June 22, 2020 11:20 AM MDT
      June 22, 2020 11:18 AM MDT
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  • 19942
    "Andrew Little, the Public Information Officer for the Tulsa Fire Department, confirmed to Forbes on Sunday that a tally taken by the fire marshal clocked the turnout at just under 6,200 people, far fewer attendees than the campaign expected."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/21/turnout-at-trumps-tulsa-rally-was-just-under-6200a-fraction-of-the-venues-19200-capacity/#66c749d81fed

    "But Andrew Little, a Tulsa Fire Department public-information officer, told several outlets on Sunday that the number of attendees was just under 6,200, far fewer people than the Trump campaign was expecting."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-claims-12000-people-attended-tulsa-rally-2020-6

    "Andrew Little, the department's public information officer, told The Hill that a fire marshal recorded the tally at around 7:30 p.m., noting that the figure applied to scanned tickets from the event. The number did not account for members of the media, campaign staff and those in box suites."
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503781-tulsa-fire-department-says-trump-rally-attendance-was-about-6200

    So, are you contending that there were 2300 people comprising the suites, the press and campaign staff?
      June 22, 2020 1:59 PM MDT
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  • 32527
    Nearly 40 suites at 30 per suite is 1200. So how much media personal? How staff? Secret Service? Other political people? 
    1000? I don't know. But I do know there was more 6200 and as I said about half full. 
      June 22, 2020 4:29 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Staff secret service "other political people" et al HAD TO BE THERE. NO CHOICE. The point is now many of the adoring worshippers not employed by trump showed up?
      June 27, 2020 3:55 AM MDT
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  • 32527
    They count in the number of people there.  Not my rule. Just how it works. 
      June 27, 2020 4:48 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      June 22, 2020 3:16 AM MDT
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