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I don't know if any of it is true but what is being floated is SHOCKING. What?

Allegedly two folks on duty fell asleep for several hours.

Allegedly for some unknown reason Epstein was left alone in his cell instead of with a cellmate

Allegedly folks on suicide watch don't get blankets or sheets to make a rope with which to hang themselves. Jeff was on suicide watch but was taken off for some reason.

Allegedly the folks there were not authorized to be there but were substitutes

Allegedly the records were changed to make it appear that they checked the cell every 30 minutes which is what they were supposed to do

Posted - August 14, 2019

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  • 10452
    Maybe the 2 guards were drugged so they would fall asleep for a couple of hours. Cheers! 
      August 14, 2019 10:40 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I hadn't considered that Nanoose. It happens in the movies all the time. I wonder if anyone took blood tests? How long before the drug is gone from the system? Thank you for your reply! :)
      August 14, 2019 12:21 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    Unallegedly this is a cover-up.  


    When you DIE by your own hand the day before you can do great damage to many RICH people who can kill you?  

    I think you have to be totally mentally retarded to think anything else.  

      August 14, 2019 10:43 AM MDT
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  • 10026
    I don't know the story but from what you've said, I think the RICH people already got ahold of him, making it look like suicide.  Mentally retarded, maybe, but more likely an excuse for the rich to get rid of any loose ends.
      August 14, 2019 12:06 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    And my favorite?  They are using the EXACT stunts Trump uses.  They are deflecting and lying and re-writing the story and HIDING.

    WHERE is EVERYONE involved?  Just two fallguy clerk type security guards who were overworked, had put in an inordinate amount of overtime hours consequentially.  NOW WHY does THIS PRISON who is housing the NUMBER ONE CRIMINAL IN THE UNITED STATES DUE TO DELIVER SECRET PAPERWORK THAT CONNECTS TONS OF BILLIONAIRES TO KID SEX?  Sounds like the Pizzagate Hillary tale but this happens to be true.

    THIS IS REAL.  It sounds insane.  BUT NO. IT is real.

    AND?  Did anyone BOTHER to find out if the guards were drugged somehow?  That would play a huge part in the story working so well.
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    Murder the guy by  passing the sleeping guards who know virtually nothing so they cannot blab.   Perfect pawns.  

    I could come up with this in five minutes. Imagine billionaires who have everything to lose not thinking about it? This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at August 14, 2019 12:14 PM MDT
      August 14, 2019 12:12 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your reply Sharon. Of course I agree.
      August 14, 2019 12:22 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    You are doing a bang-up job here, Rosie, unpeeling the onion of this whole conspiracy.  

    You are making it very easy to see what happened and just how LAME this cover-up is.  

    I mean did they even BOTHER to try to cover it up when BARR is pretending he cares at ALL?  He was probably the fattest one at the white guy party getting his glutes worked over.  

    Not sure if he would prefer young girls or boys.  I think he may be attracted to young farm animals.  More his TYPE.  He loves to dress up in hunting gear, ever notice?  Barr, I mean.  

    Trump loves to dress up in large suits and long ties to hide his widening girth.  When he stands sideways he looks like Alfred Hitchcock, another sexual predator.  I am digressing.]








    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at August 14, 2019 12:49 PM MDT
      August 14, 2019 12:25 PM MDT
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  • 13251
    Frick and Frack. Twas ever thus.
      August 14, 2019 12:40 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    LOL I found out who they were. That is not an insult.  They were amazing.  unlike them, Rosie and I are not athletes but we are Olyimpic Stars in our own right.  We would both take the KNEE at any sporting event to protest the very existence of Donald J. Trump's right to even be a free man..  

    He is not a man. 

    AND,  that is the only reason he is allowed to BE free. He is a demon.



    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at August 14, 2019 12:47 PM MDT
      August 14, 2019 12:43 PM MDT
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  • 13251
    Why did you think it was an insult? None was intended. It was simply a statement of fact.
      August 14, 2019 4:24 PM MDT
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  • 3680

    Just as I had written below, the BBC Radio Four Women's Hour magazine programme ran an item on this case, with telephone interviews with a journalist and a lawyer in America. They pointed out that Jeff Epstein has been quoted as having regarded sex with young teenage girls as no more serious than "shop-lifting a bagel";  but although he cannot now be tried his accomplices including apparently three women, can be, on appropriate charges.

    Also explained a law-suit has been instigated by one victim, now 34, taking advantage of a new law allowing a much greater time between alleged crime and allegation - 20 years for her. 

    The interview also made some general points including that in the USA, victims of sexual abuse are being treated better nowadays, though the multiplicity of different law-enforcement agencies means slow progress.


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    Parts of that were reported over in here in the BBC News - no immediate replacement for the transferred cell-mate, the failure in supervision; but so far not how he died. I believe that has not yet been established and suicide still thought the most likely.

    Still, IF he was murdered.... Surely by someone already within the prison - whichever side of the cell door? I can't see it feasible someone could enter the place from outside, pass rather more than just the two immediate cell guards, and to drug those two at once.

    So, IF murder I would suggest by another prisoner out of simple hatred of even alleged paedophiles and sex-traffickers.

    The questions then are who killed him, and why supervision was so poor the killer had easy access and could kill him without at least a struggle and without leaving marks showing the fact. 

    Epstein's death must be investigated properly, not wildly guessed at; just as the alleged trafficking must be investigated properly. No conspiracy fantasies. This so suspects in both his death and as accomplices in Epstein's own crimes, can be found, tried properly and duly imprisoned if guilty, or cleared if innocent.  

    I know that the US legal system is based on that of the UK, not countries like France, so a suspect is presumed innocent until proven guilty. (Many other nations assume guilt first, placing the burden of proof of innocence on the accused.) This also demands the manner of a suspicious death is established properly: you cannot investigate a murder if that did not happen.

    If not, the victims will have been failed, and your country's law-enforcement and judicial systems will be their own victims. 

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    Ironically this is only just after the Carl Beech case in the UK, that may have been reported in the USA. Beech made a series of utterly wild accusations of sexual abuse of boys including him, by several leading male politicians and military figures, even including former Prime Minister, Edward Heath. Beech even alleged two or three were murdered. They were all lies, but the police officers involved were so nervous of such cases that they believed Beech without investigating him. They also intimidated a newspaper journalist who first smelt a rat when he looked into the allegation of one boy being wilfully run down by a car in the street, and soon established not even a road traffic accident had occurred; so the case became even less credible than it already had.  Beech's lies and the detectives' incompetence had ruined the reputations of a number of famous people who had had led blameless and illustrious lives; and he is now in prison for "Perverting The Course of Justice". I do not know what if any action has been taken against the police officers involved, but hopefully the case will help ensure that all sexual-abuse cases are investigated properly so genuine offenders can be tried properly, their real victims treated humanely, innocent people not ruined, and false plaintiffs proven as liars.

      August 15, 2019 4:02 AM MDT
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