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Where was the outrage when Pres. Obama banned Iraqis, or Carter banned Iranians? Were they legal?

The countries in the temporary ban are countries that Pres Obama designated as terror supporters. 
Why were Obama's and Carter's bans legal but not Pres Trump's?

Posted - January 30, 2017

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  • They weren't based on  religious beliefs. That's why people take issue with it.
      January 30, 2017 5:32 AM MST
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  • 32700
    Trump's ban is from countries Pres Obama determined are terrorist supporters. It is based on that. 
      January 30, 2017 5:37 AM MST
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  • That's not how many people see it and that is his own fault due to his own words.
      January 30, 2017 6:01 AM MST
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  • 32700
    True... that is one of the downfalls of not being a politician, non-politicians have not learned to that everything they say can and will be used against them and also twisted by the other side.
      January 30, 2017 6:51 AM MST
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  • I don't know if I would call it twisting his words.



      January 30, 2017 7:00 AM MST
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  • 32700
    He has since been educated that you can not do that...

    In fairness ALL politicians words are twisted... that was what I was referring.
      January 30, 2017 7:29 AM MST
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  •   January 30, 2017 9:15 AM MST
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  • 7776
    Can you scream that just a bit louder?
      January 30, 2017 8:01 AM MST
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  • 19942
    I believe there is a slightly larger font.
      January 30, 2017 10:26 AM MST
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  • None of the counties banned have citizens responsible for American deaths in the usa ... the counties that citizens have been responsible... Saudi Arabia... have not been banned... the fact that trump has business interests in saudi Arabia is only coincidental .. wink wink
      January 30, 2017 5:55 AM MST
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  • To be fair, just about all our recent Presidents had interests of some kind in Saudi Arabia.   They been the elephant in the room for quite some time.
      January 30, 2017 6:00 AM MST
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  • 32700
    Then why are they the 7 countries Pres Obama identified as a threat?

    In December 2015, President Barack Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list, in an effort, the administration said, to address “the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters.
      January 30, 2017 6:46 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Did you read the reply by Oz? Did you read your own words; certain travelers who had visited? You do realize the difference between visit and coming from, and the difference between certain and all, no? This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at January 30, 2017 7:00 AM MST
      January 30, 2017 6:52 AM MST
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  • 32700
    Why would Pres Obama be worried about people visiting these specific countries? Perhaps Obama was worried about who they "visiting" in the countries, were they "visiting" the terrorists who "come from" there.

    Obama temporarily banned "ALL" Iraqis in 2011 for 6 months after al-Quada members were found in KY were living as refugees. 
    ABC reported:

    As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011.....

      January 30, 2017 7:17 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Certain might be the missing detail in your objective here.

    Keep defending your pick, doesn't make him any better as a person, or giving his job and the country he serves the respect suited. Fine by me if you want to be judged on supporting his values. Didn't see that one coming though. Hmm.

    Have a lovely day. Bye.
      January 30, 2017 7:34 AM MST
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  • 32700
    Obama did not ban "certain" he banned "ALL". 
      January 30, 2017 7:40 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Don't do this, it doesn't suit you or me. We both know better than that, and what I made my reference back to. End of thread from my side, i don't play these games, you should know by now. Bye.
      January 30, 2017 7:48 AM MST
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  • 32700
    Just stating facts. 
    Bye.
      January 30, 2017 7:55 AM MST
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  • 3907
    Hello my:

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    1) If I were Trump, I would NOT listen to ANYTHING the FOUNDER of ISIS says.  But, strangely, he IS.  (2)  No Americans have been killed in terrorist attacks from refugees ON that list..  On the other hand, America HAS suffered DEATH from terrorists, from countries NOT on that list..

    I wonder WHY that is..  Don't you?

    That's why.

    excon
      January 30, 2017 6:54 AM MST
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  • 32700
    They went with the countries were on Pres Obama's list already in law. Trump's EO expanded Obama's law. The EO did not mention the 7 countries the only country mentioned in Trump's was Syria. 

    As I understand it some of the questionable countries not on the list are because they help in the war on terror. 
      January 30, 2017 7:25 AM MST
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  • 19942

    Saudi Arabia "helps" in the war on terror yet has been known to funnel monies to the terrorists or terrorist organizations.

      January 30, 2017 10:29 AM MST
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  • 32700
    I don't know how much help they are. Those are just reasons I have be able to Google under both Trump and Obama. 
      January 30, 2017 10:52 AM MST
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  • 19942
    The reason I put "help" in quotation is because you can't help in the war on terror if you're contributing to it.
      January 30, 2017 10:59 AM MST
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  • 19942
    That's why it's called a coinkydink. :)

    Edited to correct spelling. This post was edited by SpunkySenior at January 30, 2017 3:32 PM MST
      January 30, 2017 10:27 AM MST
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