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This is very scary. California is now in the crosshairs of dumb city for sure. What will they do to us in person?

First Cabinet Secretary Ben Caron of HUD arrived to discuss the problem of HOMELESSNESS in California with our Governor Newsom. How can that possibly bode well when the don hates us so much and keeps attacking us on all fronts all the time? Remember the TROJAN HORSE? Is Ben the trojan horse surrogate?

As if that were not scary enough the don hisself is coming here for TWO fundraisers. One is hosted by Larry Ellison(the Oracle guy?) a billionaire of course and the other by another rich guy/gal somewhere. So the don will be on California soil and I wonder how he plans to contaminate it while he is here so that after he leaves our grounds will be totally contaminated? Sure he is lowering himself to visit California to get money that he desperately needs for his campaign (Mike Bloomberg is so rich the don is terrified of him). The don will grovel whenever he has to get money even in California his most hated state. Why he doesn't he buy his own way in I don't know. Isn't he a billionaire too? Anyway he will go wherever he has to go to get money. I expect he will wear a gas mask and some kind of protective suit while he is here so he won't have to breathe the clean air we have due to ignoring him completely and his FAILED attempts at rescinding of EPA rules. I mean once you breathe in crapped up air clean air will kill ya!

Posted - February 15, 2020

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  • 34669
    Ben Carson is scary??? Lol. Only if sleep scares you.  He is going to try to help CA with their homeless problem. 

    I find it funny that Trump get money out of CA. He should do a few rallies there.
      February 15, 2020 6:45 AM MST
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  • 113301
    Are you totally unaware of TROJAN HORSE? Apparently you are. Thank you for your reply m2c and Happy Saturday to thee.
      February 15, 2020 8:17 AM MST
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  • 34669
    You would think CA would welcome help with the homeless problem....if for no other reason than the environmental factor. 
      February 15, 2020 12:34 PM MST
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  • 1152
    When the political right talks about "help" for the homeless population, it usually involves one of three things:

    1) Victim blaming

    2) Get right with JEEZUS if you want actual material help

    3) Imprisonment and/or exploitation ("Gee, we've harassed migrant workers so they won't come to pick the crops. Maybe we can force the homeless to do it for $2/hr...")


    The chances Ben Carson either understands the issues surrounding homelessness enough to know what help might work, or actually wants to help heavily-Democratic California are essentially nil.
      February 15, 2020 3:01 PM MST
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  • 34669
    No. It involves helping them get mental help and help with addiction so they can be able get a job/assistance to get them off the streets. They should qualify for all kinds of assistance in a liberal state like CA. 

    Anyone working a person for $2/hr needs arrested. As does anyone knowingly working an illegal. 
      February 15, 2020 3:18 PM MST
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  • 1152
    Yeah, sure...

    Let me know when the MAGAts start cheering "LOCK HIM UP!" (Referring to the CEOs of Wal-Mart, Con-Agra, Ryland Homes, Tyson Foods, those Mississippi chicken factories that ICE raided, etc.) at rallies.

    Pretending such people actually care about homelessness is borderline insulting.


      February 15, 2020 3:26 PM MST
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  • 34669
    Believe what you want. But the state of CA has certainly proved they do not care. If they did they would send out workers to help there people. I know others states have programs to help the mentally disabled. And they do not just turn them out into the streets. 

    It is Republicans who want e-verify to be required for all employers. It is Republicans who want the laws enforced....those laws apply to the employers as the illegal worker. 
      February 15, 2020 3:38 PM MST
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  • 1152
    Re: "Believe what you want"

    NO! This isn't about beliefs. This is about empirical reality. It is empirical reality that the political right does seek to enforce laws against hiring illegal immigrants when it comes to (Rich White campaign donor) corporate ownership and management.

    The raid on the Koch poultry plant was in August 2019. It's almost 6 months later and NOT ONE management-level employee or owner has been arrested for illegally hiring 800+ undocumented workers.

    Ah, but I forget. For you it's all about belief. You BELIEVE that the state of California has no programs to help the homeless, the addicted, and/or the mentally ill. 

    You BELIEVE other states somehow have superior treatment for these social issues.

    And you BELIEVE that Republicans actually give a s**t about punishing employers for hiring undocumented workers.

    You have no EVIDENCE that any of your BELIEFS are true, but boy do you have BELIEFS.

    The problem with BELIEFS is that they are not always true. I can believe the Sun rises on the western horizon all I want, but it will inexorably come up on the eastern horizon, no matter how much I wish it were otherwise.
      February 15, 2020 5:01 PM MST
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  • 34669
    I am a Republican. I own a red Make America Great Again hat.  I know many others as well. I know what I believe and I know what others have told me directly what they believe. 

    We want e verify and we want employers prosecuted for knowingly hires illegals. 

    I personally know the state of IL does not turn a mentally ill person out of a facility until their case worker has confirmed there is a safe home to be in. And the arrange for farther care. It also works that way in Missouri.   Those are facts. That not how it appears to work in CA. They give them money to leave the state. 
      February 15, 2020 6:49 PM MST
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  • 1152
    As I said, go to a Trump rally, try to start a "LOCK THEM UP!" chant to advocate for the arrest of the Koch Poultry management/ownership...and see just how far you and the "many others" you know get.

    As for your claim about California paying people to leave the state, I found ZERO evidence to support that claim. Yes, there are PRIVATE COMPANIES who will pay Californians to move to wherever they are, because California is full of bright hardworking people who can't afford housing (let alone the jobless/addicted/mentally ill), but that has NOTHING to do with government policy.

    Meanwhile, here's some coverage of how California's mental health treatment system actually works.

    https://calmatters.org/explainers/breakdown-californias-mental-health-system-explained/

    You go keep on believing the Sun rises in the west...
      February 15, 2020 7:24 PM MST
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  • 34669
    So it only counts if it is chanted at a rally? Lol I do not chant....not my thing. Even at a rally. 

    Gov Gavin has used his program to claim that the homeless are from TX because a large number take the money to go to TX. But sure lets claim that program does not exist.  NY also does the same thing. Pays their rent for 1 year.  But there are allegations that the apartments are not in liveable conditions.  But sure, we will pretend that in does not exist either. This post was edited by my2cents at February 15, 2020 7:47 PM MST
      February 15, 2020 7:31 PM MST
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  • 1152
    Re: "Why he doesn't he buy his own way in I don't know. Isn't he a billionaire too? "

    When you look at how people become billionaires, they frequently get that way by taking advantage of other people's money or labor.

    For example, Mitt Romney's main business was to borrow other people's money, use it to buy companies, sell off the assets of those companies and/or fire large numbers of employees to redirect labor costs towards profits and debt repayment, take in profits after debt repayment, then sell or liquidate the companies after sucking all the money they could out of them.

    Then, of course, their profits get taxed as "capital gains" as though they had actual capital at risk, not other people's money.

    While I can't currently point to specific examples, my general impression from reading about Trump's behavior is he is similarly motivated to hang on to his own money and take advantage of other people's money whenever possible.
      February 15, 2020 7:50 AM MST
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  • 113301
    I did not know that about Romney. How does that SQUARE with his religious beliefs? Not too well I expect.
    As for don he is a well-known cheapskate deadbeat who stiffs folks out of what they owe him. That is why US banks refused to float him any more loans. He was UNDEPENDABLE and RISKY and that's why Deutsche Bank came in to save his a**. I think. Sadly the don will be in California for two fund raisers. One is Larry Ellison (remember Oracle...remember way back in college and Linda? Didn't she go to work for him right out of college?) Anyway the don hates California but will force himself to be here for the big bucks promised. Thank you for your reply and Happy Saturday to thee SP! :)
      February 15, 2020 8:22 AM MST
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  • 10699
    Isn't it ironic that he wants money from a state he despises?  Milk the cow then destroy it?


      February 15, 2020 10:13 AM MST
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