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Ralph Nader was a spoiler ? Please Rosie, he was not ! Johnson and the libertarians will probably get 2% of the vote and that will be in protest, rather than support of the platform . Decades ago ???
After his dumb "Aleppo" response I am embarrassed as a Libertarian. I can't vote for him. (I can't anyway...he is not on the ballot in Ohio.) Maybe I'll write in Chuck Norris or Ted Nugent.
You're still here? I saw you write JA a farewell note saying how lame Answermug was and wondered why you didn't let me know you were going? But you
didn't go. So here you are. Thank you for your reply Ele. I would let you know why I was leaving. Just so ya know. Happy First Day of Autumn 2016 Thursday! :)
Clinton is the dem spoilers just as Trump is the repub spoiler. Johnson has nothing to do with it.
Hardly. The states that were firmly in the Clinton fold during the 1992 and 1996 campaigns are still there. The opposition hasn't been able to flip a single one. The Dems began this campaign with 270 Electoral votes in the bank. Nothing has happened to change that. My home state is predicted to go to Clinton as it did in Bill's previous two campaigns. We're in the predominately red south, but with a large Hispanic and Black turnout we'll go against the trend of the region. Johnson will have to poll a lot stronger than he is now to make a difference. Even if he doubles his strength before November, I don't see it.
Good. I hope you're right. I honestly can't see we the people electing a cartoon character like Trump as our prez. Thank you for your reply Polk.:) But if there were no Gary Johnson, Libertarian running wouldn't Hillary have gotten some of those votes or do you think they would all have gone to Trump?
If Johnson weren't running you don't think some of those voters would be voting for Hillary? You think they would all vote for Trump or simply note vote? Thank you for your reply FNR.
As I see it, the Libertarian movement is comprised mainly of liberals that are disaffected with the two party system. Without that party, they would vote Democrat. Or perhaps stay home. The really surprising thing about the Libertarians is that they've lasted so long. Remember Ed Clark and his run for the White House? Third party efforts are largely based in rebellion, as such they usually fade. What I think a lot of people fail to see or realize, is that even with a strong third party effort, the candidate with 270 in the Electoral College is the president whether they pull 53% or 43%. The Clinton camp is acutely aware of this and is employing the same strategy from the 1990's. It's not the number of states, it's having the RIGHT states. Also, demographics are a vital consideration. Many people here will be fooled in November because they don't consider that we have the largest Hispanic population east of the Mississippi River or that the urban areas of our state have a large black turnout. While whites hold a slim majority statewide, they don't turn out in large numbers to vote. The best example of the shift is in the fact that the town in which I live had a population of 3800 in 1976. Currently, it has a population of 15,000, 55% of which is Hispanic. Population shifts are a national and regional consideration.
