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True or Faux everything we ever experience remains in our memory banks. If true what do infants remember without language to bring meaning?

Posted - July 30, 2020

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  • 34620
    You have never watching anything without the sound on...there is much to see and learn in the world. 
      July 30, 2020 5:45 AM MDT
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  • 10689

    True and false.

    Yes, everything goes in and doesn’t come back out, but…

    What did you have for breakfast on December 2nd, 1974?  What were you doing when you heard the news that Kennedy had been shot?  What was the color of the shirt the student who sat in front of (or behind) you in 3rd grade (on any day)?   When is your birthday?  Why can we remember certain things but not others?  Why can a smell or sound trigger a memory we hadn’t remembered in years?  Why can some people remember much of their life in detail, yet can’t remember where they laid their car keys 5 minutes ago?  Why can you recite the lyrics of a song from 1972, but can’t remember your anniversary date?  Why does the smell of apples (say) suddenly elicit a super-clear memory of your childhood?

    Memory.   The human brain is, fundamentally, an extremely complex computer that operates on a just a few watts of power (14-20).  It’s thought that the average human brain has the ability to store roughly 2.5 petabytes (or a million gigabytes) of data.  By contrast, a “real” computer with the same memory and processing power would require 1 gigawatt of power.  How big is a memory?  A byte?   A Megabyte?  No one really knows.  Certain memories involve more details and thus take up more space; other memories are forgotten and thus free up space. Additionally, some information is just not worth remembering in the first place. In other words, it’s almost impossible to quantify the amount of information in the human brain, in part because it consists of so much more information than we’re consciously aware of; not only facts and faces and measurable skills but basic functions like how to speak and move and higher order ones like how to feel and express emotions. We take in much more information from the world than ‘what do I remember from yesterday’.

    Does that mean there’s a limit to what can be retained?  Our brain “compresses” memories so they take up less room.  It also “truncates” memories; leaving out certain parts that it can access elsewhere and inset as needed.  Why keep 50 copies of something when 1 will suffice?  The brain also “adlibs”, painting in parts of a memory so they seem real.  That smell-triggered memory you had of your childhood might not be all there.  The blue sky (for example) may just seem blue, as that’s what you’d expect.   In reality, the brain truncated that part long ago to save space.  Some memories you think are real, are false.  The brain truncated so much and then filled it back in that what you have is a false memory – even though you swear it was accurate.  The brain also does this to save power.    

    Even though we think there is a limit to the amount of data the brain can hold, it is doubtful that anyone would ever reach that “limit”.  That’s because our storage process is slower than our experience of the world.   We can’t process everything that is constantly going on around us.  If we did, it would overwhelm us (data overload).  

    Our brains are extremely complicated!

     

      July 30, 2020 2:45 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for a very thorough and educational and informative reply Shuhak. It's stunning in its comprehensive nature. Would being hypnotized unlock some of it? What about being given "truth" serum? Could that also effect more access to what is there? Here's why I asked. I swear to you I believe I remember being in a baby carriage in a hallway with my mom and a few of her friends. Standing at an apartment door knocking waiting for the occupant to open it. It is VIVIDLY etched in my brain. I am lying down looking up at them. They were all wearing hats. Now where does that come from? It's just a brief memory or whatever it is. I don't remember anything that preceded it or followed it. It was just that! Could I have seen such a thing in a movie when I was young and then misremembered where it came from? Sure. But it is so REAL I can almost feel the baby blanket on me. Go figger! Do you have any such memory of long ago? My son told me he remembers nothing before he was 3. Geez I remember so much. We moved from Detroit when I was 3 and I have vivid memories of my life there So I don't quite understand why my brain is so different from his. He is a genius...they called it "mentally gifted minor". I am not. That's a question that needs to be asked. Thanks again m'dear! :) This post was edited by RosieG at August 1, 2020 3:40 AM MDT
      July 31, 2020 2:20 AM MDT
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  • 10689

    I have always had a super good memory... almost eidetic.  

    The earliest memory I have is of me inside a playpen beside our old shed as my mom was hanging up the laundry.   I wasn’t quite 2 at the time. (and they say people can’t remember things before they were 3). 

    I too have strange memories.  I remember a girl from my kindergarten class who, on the first day of school, wore a white dress with an orange carrot on the lower front.   Her name was Karen Lobinger.   I referred to her as “carrot dress”.  Why on earth do I remember that? 

      July 31, 2020 12:55 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    What a spiffy "odd" memory to have all these years. But odd memories live in my head too. WHY I have no idea. Might you have had a crush on her, admired her? Was she a kind girl or pretty or popular? I bet she'd be so HONORED that you remember so well you even remember a dress she was wearing. Marylou Henner, the actress, has a fantastic memory. She can tell you what she did on any specific day. I forget what you call people like that but there are more than one of them. Is that what eidetic is? Here's the question I would ask them though and I'll ask you first. Aren't there some things you do not want to remember because they were so painful or hurtful to you? Having a memory that never forgets anything I think would definitely be a two-edged sword. Thank you for your informative reply Shuhak and Happy Saturday! :) This post was edited by RosieG at August 1, 2020 1:08 PM MDT
      August 1, 2020 3:44 AM MDT
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  • 10689

    I just recall that one time seeing that girl.  I don't recall ever seeing her after kindergarten.  I’m not even sure if she stayed the entire school year.  Perhaps she moved.  I have no idea why I remember her (I can describe her as well as hear her voice – even though I have no memory of her actually talking to me).  Weird. 

    Yes, that’s called eidetic memory.  It’s not very common. 

    Yes, I remember bad memories as well (ones I wish I could forget).  I try not to focus on them, as they elicit unwanted emotions.

      August 1, 2020 1:20 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    I remember once upon a time when I was a teenage girl being somewhere and seeing this young boy..maybe my age or a bit holder...walking up some stairs with his parents I expect and our eyes met for a brief instant. It was electric. He turned his head back and looked straight ahead and walked up the stairs and disappeared. But I remember that vividly. I think was 16. He was blond and very handsome in a Robert Redford way. Zing went the strings of my heart. Today he might have a large belly and be morbidly obese and bald. But then? WOW! Thank you for your reply Shuhak. I guess that's the romantic in me. My mom told me about one time before she met my dad when a young man gave her a white rose. Out of the blue. She said she will never forget that. So I guess she was a romantic too. She never saw him again. This post was edited by RosieG at August 3, 2020 11:25 AM MDT
      August 3, 2020 4:30 AM MDT
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