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The Florida snata claws threatens to cut the pay of pro mask state employees. Sez only the parents have the right to decide. To die/not to?

Posted - August 10, 2021

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  • 34253
    If the Principals or others in charge at the school decide to ignore the law on masks....they will ne fined.  It will be deducted from their pay. 

    No different than fining a business for not requiring masks if that were the law.

    Cannot have it both ways.
      August 10, 2021 6:07 AM MDT
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  • 34253
    Children do not die from this disease unless they are already immunio compromised. 
      August 10, 2021 6:09 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    "At least 81 children in the U.S. died of Covid between March and July, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and many doctors warn that the situation is likely to get worse."

    • Arkansas Children’s Hospital in Little Rock had 23 patients under 18 admitted to its system last week. Ten were in the ICU and five were on ventilators.
    • St. Louis Children’s Hospital in Missouri saw 13 kids come to the ER for Covid in the last week of July, and then it saw 20 who needed beds in the first week of August.
    • At Texas Children’s Hospital in Houston, Covid positivity rates have risen from around 3 percent to above 10 percent among kids. The number of hospitalized children was in the single digits several weeks ago but rose to more than 30 last week.
    • Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said Friday that there are 13 children hospitalized with Covid at Children's Hospital New Orleans, including six under the age of 2. Four children are in the ICU, including a 3-month-old boy, a 23-month-old girl, an 8-year-old girl and a 17-year-old boy.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kids-sick-covid-are-filling-children-s-hospitals-areas-seeing-n1276238?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

    There is no way yet to tell how many, if any of these hospitalized children will die.  Do you really think that all these hospitalized children have co-morbidities?  I bet you do.
     
      August 10, 2021 9:18 AM MDT
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  • 34253
    Under 90  (corrected) 349 have died total for under 18 as of July 31.  
    I do not know how many of the current cases are immunio surpressed.  But I do know it most of them were NOT that would be the lead story on EVERY media outlet.  



    This post was edited by my2cents at August 10, 2021 7:05 PM MDT
      August 10, 2021 12:41 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    Oh, so because the number of deaths is under 90, it's ok.  Got it.  
      August 10, 2021 12:49 PM MDT
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  • 34253
    I corrected the number (sorry I was looking at something else and got my numbers crossed) 

    I never said any child's death is ok.  But we do not shut down and force vaccines on anyone for any other disease that a kills children.  More children under 18 died from pneumonia (not related to covid) than died from covid.  Should we shut schools down over this. And force teachers and over 12 to take a vaccine or wear a mask in school?  
    Remember the mask study from the schools? One of the bacteria found on them is the one for bacterial pneumonia.    More deaths than covid....are those deaths ok? 
      August 10, 2021 7:23 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    OK, so from now on, we shouldn't vaccinate kids (or anyone else) for any of these:

    May be an image of text that says '14 diseases we've controlled thanks to vaccines: Polio Tetanus Measles Influenza Hepatitis B HepatitisA Rubella Hib Whooping Cough Pneumococcal Disease Rotavirus Mumps Chickenpox Diptheria Let's add COVID-19 to the list.'
    If they die they die.
      August 11, 2021 8:25 AM MDT
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  • 34253
    Again....healthy kids are not dying from this.  More have died from pneumonia than covid. Nearly 2 1/2 times as many. 
      I would bet money this is from the bacteria from the masks they are being forced to wear for hours. 
      August 11, 2021 1:46 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    What's your reasoning for kids who died from pneumonia BEFORE they had to wear masks?

    EDIt:

    "CDC recommends routine administration of pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV13) for all children younger than 2 years of age:

    • Give PCV13 to infants as a series of 4 doses, one dose at each of these ages: 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 12 through 15 months.
    • Children who miss their shots or start the series later should still get the vaccine. The number of doses recommended and the intervals between doses will depend on the child’s age when vaccination begins."
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pneumo/hcp/recommendations.html

    Therefore, if the children's parents had properly immunized them, they wouldn't be getting pneumonia from wearing the masks. This post was edited by SpunkySenior at August 11, 2021 2:11 PM MDT
      August 11, 2021 2:04 PM MDT
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  • 34253
    Many of the child born before 2010 likely are not vaxxed for it as it was not around when they were an infant.   Pneumonia deaths drastically increased during covid mask mandates.  So yes I still believe it is from the masks. 


    https://www.acepnow.com/article/data-snapshots-u-s-influenza-and-pneumonia-deaths-2013-2020/



      August 11, 2021 7:19 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    Your own source attributes these deaths to Covid-19 - says nothing about masks contributing to the rise.

    "In 2020, there is a large increase in pneumonia deaths accompanying COVID-19."
      August 11, 2021 9:33 PM MDT
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  • 34253
    Read the graph.  There are 3 colored lines. The BLUE is pnemonia....shoots up in 2020 when mask mandates came about because of covid. (Red line) 
    Flu is the yellow line. 
    Yes. They shot up at the same time.  As my chart above from the CDC shows both pnemonia alone and the number of covid+pnemonia cases for all age groups.  

    Pnemonia only cases increased with the onset of mask mandates.  (I do not need the site to tell me this....we all know when mask mandates started)


    There were over 170k pnemonia cases without covid in 2020.  (351k total - 179k w/covid)  

    Perhaps the gov should be pushing pneumonia shots.....at least those have been around for 10+ yrs. And nearly 1/2 of the covid death involved pnemonia. This post was edited by my2cents at August 12, 2021 6:14 AM MDT
      August 12, 2021 5:39 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    Masks are not meant to be used day after day after day.  If parents are not providing clean masks on a daily basis, then it isn't the masks' fault  Parents should have been inoculating their children against pneumonia from infancy.  If not, then it's the parents' fault, isn't it?
      August 12, 2021 6:43 AM MDT
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  • 34253
    Again the study I quoted on my question was NOT masks used day after day.  They were either NEW or just washed masks.    That were sent to be tested after 1 day.

    Again, it has only been around since 2010.  So children who are 13 yrs or older would not have been given that vaccine because it was not invented or at least not approved by the FDA.  

    My children did not have this vaccine because it did NOT exist at the time. And it was never mentioned to me in Dr visits or by the schools. (They are all in there 20s currently)  

    My grandchildren, I am sure, have gotten as they were born after 2010.  This post was edited by my2cents at August 12, 2021 5:09 PM MDT
      August 12, 2021 4:33 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    Surely, a parent who bothers to listen to the news or read the paper would know that a vaccine for pneumonia was available and would take their child for the shot.  Same with HPV.  The pneumonia vaccine can be gotten at any age.
      August 12, 2021 5:19 PM MDT
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  • 34253
    I watch news.....more than most people.

    And in all honesty, I did not know there was a pnemonia vaccine until you mentioned it.  (And I thank you for that) 
     Again no Dr or even the schools ever mentioned it.

    HPV was mentioned by both Drs and schools.  My oldest did not get it until it was out for awhile.   

    I do not trust anything new.  This post was edited by my2cents at August 12, 2021 5:39 PM MDT
      August 12, 2021 5:35 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      August 10, 2021 1:26 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    snata claws Santa Claus. LOL!
      August 10, 2021 9:53 AM MDT
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  • 34253
    She means DeSantis.
      August 10, 2021 11:05 AM MDT
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