Discussion»Statements»Rosie's Corner» There usta be lotsa Dems in the south. Southern Whites.Then Civil Rights laws went into effect and they became Republicans/still are. WHY?
I think it happened along with the word 'Intellectual' changing meaning from "intelligent and well informed" to "Idiot who think he is all that". Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican, and so (in the new way) is The Donald ;-))
So really it is all an illusion; nothing have changed, Republicans are still the intellectual elite.
This post was edited by JakobA the unAmerican. at May 9, 2017 10:49 AM MDT
"Republicans are still the intellectual elite?" I could not disagree with you more. If they were they would support EDUCATION JakobA and they NEVER DO. How you could come to that conclusion I don't know. That is between you and your conscience. Thank you for your reply and Happy Tuesday! However your answer does bring up another question for which I thank you.
PLEASE DON'T MENTION THE RACE CARD.. So many have a problem, let's just say 'they can't handle the truth'. NUFF Said.
Bill Moyers (himself) notes the following in his Moyers on America (2004; p. 167), viewable via Google Books. Quote: When he signed the act he was euphoric, but late that very night I found him in a melancholy mood as he lay in bed reading the bulldog edition of the Washington Post with headlines celebrating the day. I asked him what was troubling him. "I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come," he said.
The Moyes quote have nothing to do with Trump, it is about Lyndon B signing the civil rights act in 1964. and th "I" that "found him" can hardly have been Moyes ;-)) ref: http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=79865
The question is:" There usta be lotsa Dems in the south. Southern Whites.Then Civil Rights laws went into effect and they became Republicans/still are." WHY? The signing by Lyndon Johnson of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 turned the south GOP.
Thurmond fled the Democrats when President Harry Truman urged legislators to implement the sweeping document issued by his Committee on Civil Rights, To Secure These Rights. Among other measures, the report called for ending economic discrimination, desegregating all public facilities, establishing regional offices of the Civil Rights Section of a strengthened Justice Department, passing an anti-lynching law, and creating permanent civil-rights commissions in every state to monitor civil rights.
In response, Thurmond created the States’ Rights Democrats, more commonly known as the Dixiecrats Party. “[T]here’s not enough troops in the Army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the n***r race into our theatres, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches,” he said as in his first speech as the party’s presumptive president. It was the first toss in a game that would see virtually the entire South migrated to the GOP.
This post was edited by Beans/SilentGeneration at May 9, 2017 1:09 PM MDT
As a southerner myself, I think that I can expound on this question that was actually 150 years in the making. As a native southerner with a lifelong relationship with the region(to say nothing of the affection that I feel for its people and vanishing culture.) Today's American South is quite different from the Conservative Bible Belt that it once was due to an influx of a variety of ethnic and cultural influences from around the nation and the globe. The Civil War alone would have been enough to leave lasting scars on the land, as well as in the hearts and minds of the people. The ten year post war period known as Reconstruction did lasting damage as the U.S. Congress controlled by Republicans pretty much held sway with an occupying Federal army. In a region where the institution of slavery had been protected since the founding of the nation by lU.S. courts, laws and government, the manipulation of unskilled and uneducated freedmen for political leverage created resentment among not only the former plantation class, but the poorer whites who were ruined by the war and its aftermath as well. And yes, these conditions gave rise to vigilante and Klan activities and racial strife that would be a part of the scene for a century. The other significant result was the ascension of the Democratic Party to become in time the ONLY party in the region. When I was growing up in the state of Georgia, there was no real opposition to the Democrats and southerners comprised the largest portion of that party's conservative wing. Into the twentieth century with its Great Depression and world war, the party of Roosevelt and Truman, was regarded as almost a religion among the poor living in rural areas and among mill and factory workers in the towns. The south was referred to as the "Solid South" for its unyielding support of Democratic politics. The Democrats were viewed by my father's generation as the only political force that stood for the working class or average man of the time. Roosevelt was a god and to think otherwise was blasphemy. It is a matter of historical record that many of the nationally known southerners sent to Congress fought against Civil Rights legislation. It can be argued that the resistance was a mixture of political ideology or political expediency mixed with cultural resentment instilled in generations of southerners. Whatever you choose as cause and effect, it didn't happen overnight and it wasn't resolved overnight. The idea of a solid Dixie being permanently in the Democratic column was broken in the general election of 1964 as conservative whites shifted to Barry Goldwater's candidacy. The slow move of the national Democratic party to the left caused a gravitation to the GOP by conservative southerners. It was out of necessity as there was no place else to go. Who's to say where it goes from here. Political parties and political activities are not static. It is a constant flow that takes in much of what we know, feel or believe. As it stands now, we have basically a Liberal and a Conservative party in the nation, but it was the ebb and flow of history and conflicts that brought to this place.
JakobA the unAmerican. 