What other choice do they have? They are toying with the idea of having the face-to-face meeting cover very narrow ground. But we all know it doesn't matter because the donjohn keeps blurting out lie after lie after lie after lie after lie. He cannot control himself. Like the poisonous snake who cannot control killing people. It is its nature. So too is lying the nature of the donjohn. What happens when a sitting prez takes the 5th? Ever happen before?