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RosieG

Why is the sanctity of the confessional and the lawyer-client privilege MORE IMPORTANT than justice being served/truth being told?

Posted - April 10, 2018
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  • If you're looking for justice being served and truth being told in government, good luck with that one. I really don't think this is about truth, justice(or the American way). This is more about conclusions already reached and guilt already assigned. It's about the end justifying the means. If it wasn't for things like Miranda warnings, sanctity of the confessional , lawyer/client privilege and inadmissable evidence, everybody would be convicted in a court of law. So these things matter as safe guards in the pursuit of "justice and truth". 
      April 10, 2018 11:02 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your reply ub and Happy Wednesday to thee. Perception belongs to each of us individually.  Rose-colored glasses and our beliefs the same. What I see is what you see. We just interpret it differently. You interpret it according to what you think and I do the same according to what I think. It is not up to me to try to convince you of the "error of your ways" and vice versa. In YOUR world you rule supreme. What you think is true is true for you.  Same for me. So we each live our lives in comfy assurance that we are right and those who disagree are wrong. It is our way of getting through life. "If there were a better way to do it we would be doing it".  Right? This post was edited by RosieG at April 11, 2018 4:01 AM MDT
      April 11, 2018 4:00 AM MDT
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    There can be no law without a solid foundation.  There has to be a line that cannot be crossed. 

    If you cannot trust your priest or lawyer, what do you do when you need help?  What about the innocent or the guilty who need a good defense, lest they go to jail for 10 years for stealing a loaf of bread.  

    Who is going to confess? Many are encouraged to come forth and admit during this process of confession.  The priest is the objective, non-judgmental sounding board.

    The lawyer cannot defend a lie, so that means the lawyer cannot defend a crime that has been confessed.  So, one cannot say "I murdered someone and I am paying you to say I am innocent".   However, no criminal is going to go to a lawyer that cannot have his complete faith and trust.  Sometimes this works to the benefit of all; and sometimes if frees a criminal.  At this point it is our best option.   No one needs to endure being charged unfairly.

    It's interesting that Donald Trump is always pointing out all the atrocities he has committed by blaming his critics who are pointing out his atrocities.   He never sees that he is not the VICTIM, we are.  The rest of the world is.

    I want to see this creep fry and his whole creep cabinet.





    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at April 11, 2018 3:23 AM MDT
      April 10, 2018 11:09 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I think it's a racket personally. I don't believe in the death bed extreme unction  dramarama  where if you are really remorseful you will be forgiven all your sins. Such bullsh**! So the  person who lives a life of doing good is on a par with an SOB evil bast**rd who is scared to death of what is ahead in a  possible afterlife so he begs forgiveness. How is that fair? It isn't. It's bullsh **! It's what you do in life that matters. Not what you do that you are sorry for. I'm gonna ask. Thank you for your reply Sharon! :)
      April 11, 2018 3:27 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    I might argue that it is an extension of the prohibition against unlawful search and seizure and the right to avoid incriminating oneself....

    Excellent question, however.
      April 10, 2018 1:07 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for the compliment tom and here is what really bothers me. You've heard of extreme unction? I think it is being forgiven all your sins if on your deathbed you are REALLY REMORSEFUL and beg forgiveness. I think it is Catholic thing. So a Hitler or a Trump who did lifelong evil is forgiven because he is scared of what comes after? His slate is wiped clean and he is treated just the same as someone who lived a life doing good? How is that fair? We in California are being excoriated for providing sanctuary to people. The powers that be think THAT is evil. The attackers are the same ones who confess horrible things they've done to religious leaders or tell their SHYSTER lawyers what horrible things they've done and they are PROTECTED from being outed. That is ridikkilus! Not fair. Hypocritical. Anyway I don't see how any human being can absolve one of having done horrible things. For me it doesn't come that easily. I don't expect people to incriminate themselves. That is the purpose of the 5th Amendment. But making others complicit in the crimes you commit by telling them and then expecting them to stifle it? That is stupid dumb to me. SIGH. Thank you for your reply and Happy Wednesday! :)  Vis a vis unlawful search and seizure! The New York Feds got a warrant to take all records/computers/ phones etcetera from THREE locations. The office, the home and the place where Michael Cohen is staying while his house is being repaired or something. Doofus donny thinks that is unlawful. He wouldn't recognize lawful if it bit him in his corpulent ARSE! :) This post was edited by RosieG at April 11, 2018 3:41 AM MDT
      April 11, 2018 3:39 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    The Sacrament of Extreme Unction---sometimes called the anointing of the sick."---

    It can be administered by a priest to any Catholic except (per canon law) in the case of those who "persevere obstinately in manifest grave sin."---

    Trump is certainly not Catholic---and I would think that he might be considered to "persevere obstinately in manifest grave sin"  (Allegedly---as Stephen Colbert might add.)
      April 11, 2018 3:14 PM MDT
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