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Do you want others to value what you value? Do you need their approbation to legitimize it or are you completely autonomous/independent?

Posted - June 13, 2018

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  • 6098
    I would like others to. But have learned many, perhaps most, will never.  I guess I have always been pretty independent in some things. Though I believe we must get along with and work with each other. 
      June 13, 2018 8:03 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    I'm pretty independent and not necessarily inclined to worry much about whether others agree with me.  I certainly don't feel the need to be validated by people I don't know in real life.  Happy Wednesday, Rosie. :)
      June 13, 2018 1:01 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your reply L and Happy Thursday.  It's nice when you bump into someone who views things as you do. There is an immediate kinship/connection. I'm always looking for connections. But I could never adjust what I think to impress anyone or to have someone "like" me. Discussing differences in views politely is fine. That's how you learn about others. I think learning about those with whom you do not connect is good too. I like KNOWING what and with whom I'm dealing.  :)
      June 14, 2018 3:02 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    Couldn't have said it better myself. :)
      June 14, 2018 8:37 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your reply L and Happy Friday! :)
      June 15, 2018 2:55 AM MDT
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  • 666
    I think I'm pretty independent in my thinking, but I would like others to value what I value.
    When they don't it does bother me and I try to find out why they don't.
    I try to at least understand them to see what the truth is.
    However If the evidence shows that they're incorrect then I don't necessarily need them to agree with me to legitimize my way of thinking.
    I feel like I'm always open minded to the truth.
    If you can prove something to me I will absolutely admit if I'm wrong because above all else I don't care about being right.
    I want to know the truth.

      June 13, 2018 1:26 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for a thoughtful reply  Summer. Very logical. Problem is there are those who aren't and so they can have TRUTH smack them in the face and will deny it is.  They call it fake and make up their own version of TRUTH which of course isn't true at all and then peddle it. Shocking thing is millions buy that version. It is not limited to politics/politicians of course but it is in politics and among politicians where being a liar is most highly developed and refined. It doesn't really bother me if others don't value what I do. That means I probably don't value what they do either. That's OK. What isn't okay is for them TO FORCE their beliefs on me and make laws reflecting their values. Like racists for example. Or homophobes. I reject whatever they value but it's their lives. It's only when they peddle that sinister view and insist others obey it that I fight back. Different strokes for different folks. You cannot change what people are and what they are is based on what  they believe. Sorry if that came out like a lecture. Not my intention. I don't care what they believe. I do care what they DO when it harms those they see as less than they are. And that is everyone who doesn't agree with them. SIGH. Thank you for your reply and Happy Thursday! :) This post was edited by RosieG at June 14, 2018 6:16 AM MDT
      June 14, 2018 2:55 AM MDT
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  • 666
    I hear you.
    Some people seem to feel as if they can do no wrong.
    I don't know if they were raised that way or if it is just something that's in them.
    They don't like the truth and if it is inconvenient for them in any way they start lying and trying to somehow justify their deeds.
    They will find a way to present themselves as the victim.
    I don't know if it's a telling sign of narcissism, sociopathic tendencies or just plain immaturity, greed and stubbornness.
    I think we all do it to some degree, but certain people and politicians take it to the extreme.
    There's very little humility in Donald Trump or my ex wife for that matter.
    That scares me.
    People can be dangerous when they put their own interests above the truth.

    Happy Thursday to you as well.

      June 14, 2018 6:15 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Humility. What a fine word! Being humble, modest. Those qualities used to be valued. They describe someone who is not full of himself but thoughtful and pleasant to be around. We see that word or derivatives thereof far too seldom these days. It is out of fashion apparently. Antiquated. I hope not extinct but these days one never knows. I agree with your entire answer Summer There's nothing there that isn't true for me. Thank you for your very thoughtful reply and Happy Friday! :) Oh your use of that word is going to be the basis for a question. You will recognize which one. Thanks for the inspiration! :)
      June 15, 2018 2:59 AM MDT
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