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There is no better example of the power inherent in THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE than the French Revolution. Is it our turn to revolt?

There was widespread discontent among the people. They razed and redesigned the country's political landscape. King Louis XV1 and his wife Marie Antoinette were guillotined. The people did not like the King's policies.

Well the American people do not like don's policies. He acts as if he were king. He is no such thing.

Allons enfants de la patrie!

Posted - March 14, 2019
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  • 46117
    We have revolted since then.  We revolted in the 60's.  Remember?  Tricky Dicky?  He got ousted because of us and our revolution.

    YES.  WE ARE MORE THAN READY.

    BRING IT.



      March 14, 2019 1:47 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Someone here said something like "the wheels of progress grind exceedingly slow". I'm sure I botched that up. I dunno Sharon. Liddle donny d has some kind of evil hold on people. I keep trying to figger it out. So far no luck. Thank you for your reply.
      March 15, 2019 2:15 AM MDT
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  • 6023
    We had 2 armed revolutions against a government that people believed didn't represent them.

    1 - The Revolutionary War.

    2 - The Civil War.

    The interesting thing is, from what I have read, in both situations the people were pretty equally divided.
    1/3 didn't care ... 1/3 wanted reform/revolution ... and 1/3 wanted to maintain the status quo

    Of course, both of those (and the French Revolution) took place in times where the people had little to distract them from how bad their lives were.
    I mean, good god, they didn't have The Kardashians or Christie Knows Best or Total Drama Island or soap operas.  
    And you can only watch and gossip about your neighbors so much before you start looking around and realize your life is as bad as theirs.

    But watch out.
    Not all revolutions go how the activists want.
    I don't know if the average citizen was any happier after the Russian Revolution, under the Communists, than they were under the Tzar.
    And look at similar revolutions in China, Cambodia, Cuba, etc.
    Among the first acts of such revolutions ... was to kill the revolutionaries who failed to grab enough power to protect themselves.
    Especially if those people were higher educated (teachers, doctors, lawyers). This post was edited by Walt O'Reagun at March 15, 2019 2:15 AM MDT
      March 14, 2019 1:56 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    We fought the King of England during the Revolutionary War. Remember? Read the Declaration of Independence again. It will refresh your memory.

    The Civil war was about SLAVERY. Pros wanted to keep them and antis wanted to free them.

    THIS TIME it would be about freeing us from the grips of liddle donny d and his devil government. Very different animal Walt.

    Thank you for your reply.
      March 15, 2019 2:18 AM MDT
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  • 6023

    The American Revolution was still against OUR government, at the time.
    We weren't American citizens ... we were British subjects.
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    The Civil War wasn't about slavery.
    It was about keeping the Union whole and not letting states leave a voluntary association.

    President Lincoln's letter to Horace Greeley (August 22, 1862):
    I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

    Lincoln didn't care about slavery, as President.  His actions were to save the Union and saw force as the only way to restore it.

    This was widely understood at the time, and why there were riots in the North against the draft.  Which resulted in Lincoln using the military to destroy the news offices of any paper/editor who spoke out in opposition to the war.

    It was only when global powers in Europe were considering backing the Confederacy (which had been winning most of the battles until Gettysburg) that Lincoln took the opportunity of a battle win, to proclaim the war was about slavery.  Because that would keep the European Powers out of the conflict, since they had already outlawed slavery.

    The end result of the Civil War, was a major power grab by the federal government ... which took a big step along the path to where we are today, under Trump.  
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    Now, it seems to me, the failure of the Russian, Chinese, Cambodian, and Cuban Revolutions ... was that nobody really planned ahead with what they would replace the existing government with.

    So ... say there was a revolution.
    People want to know ... why did it require an armed insurrection to remove Trump, rather than just voting him out?  What are you going to replace him with?  And if you don't replace the system, how are you going to assure we don't get a similar President in the future?  So what are you going to replace the system with?  Maybe a Prime Minister and Parliament?  Maybe a Parliamentary Monarchy?  Maybe split the nation into multiple nations, each free to choose their own type of government?

      March 15, 2019 7:41 AM MDT
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