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Does having a foreign country so interested in an American election outcome that it does damage to the process as scary as it appears to be or much ado about nothing? Why?

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Posted - August 30, 2016

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  • Oh yes.  Russia has a vested interest.  Trump and Putin share the same objective; Dismantle NATO which removes the obstacle for Putin & Russia to rebuild the USSR.

    We also have foreigh nationals sticking their faces into our politics.  Milo Yianopolis is a British national and an alt-right sleaze bag, along with the likes of Rupert Murdoch who are trying to influence Aerican politices.  Consider for a moment if Murdoch and Milo were Mexicans rather than white males.. All hell would break loose

      August 30, 2016 9:43 AM MDT
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  • 214

    Most foreign counties have an interest in the outcome of the American election. If you are referring to the Russians and the alleged ties between Trump and Putin, let's not forget the ties between Hillary and her family Foundation with Putin (reset button) and the Russian Oligarchs.

    Let's not forget our own President himself, who has inserted himself into the elections of other countries.

      August 31, 2016 7:39 AM MDT
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  • 214

    Russia could care less. It probably has more on Hillary and her family Foundation to put the screws to her, anyway.  As for dismantling NATO, Trump never called for that. But he did call for member countries to pony up their fair share, per the NATO agreement.

    Let's not forget that Obama recently inserted his face into the politics of the UK, even insinuating the the UK would go to the end of the line on trade deals.

    We can't expect other countries to stay out of our politics, when we meddle in theirs!

      August 31, 2016 7:43 AM MDT
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  • Not true.  Russia has been hacking Democratic sites. It's proven. ONLY Democratic sites.

    Why? Why not Republican sites?

    Putin Hates Hillary

    Putin's daughter vacationed with Putin's girlfriend who was Rupert Murdochs ex-wife who Murdoch divorced because she was cheating on him with Tony Blair (GW Dubya's partner in crime)

    After Trumps multitudes of bankruptcies, he could not secure financing from any US banking institutions so he sought help from The Deutsche bank, Russia and their Oligarchs. 

    Paul Manifort was the campaign manager andfor the Ukraine's Pro-Russian candidate for President and lived there for quite a while. The only reason he resigned as Trumps Campaign manager was because his insidious past became public.

    Trump asked for Russia and Putin's help to hack into an American entity which is treasonous.

    Let's not forget about the Putin/Trump bromance and Putin's endorsement of Trump.

    Trump won't release his Taxes because all of his financials will come to light including his financial interests in Russia AND the his donations to the Clinton Foundation

     As for this:

    We can't expect other countries to stay out of our politics, when we meddle in theirs!

    Remember that when America whines about all these "Damn Muslims" planning terrorist attacks in 'Murica and when someone says Muslims should be banned.  We've been meddling in Middle Eastern countries for over 50 years with disasterous results.  GW Bush and Ronald Reagon are the fathers of Isis and Modern Radical Islamic terrorism.  Ronnie supported the Mujahadeen who bewcame Al Quaeda and Bush de-stablized the entire through his illegal war which resulted in many of Sadam's Military leaders joinin ISIS. 

      August 31, 2016 7:57 AM MDT
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  • 214

    1. Even the FBI says they aren't sure if the Republicans have been hacked.

    2, "Putin's daughter vacationed with Putin's girlfriend ..." Putin's girlfriend is NOT Wendy Deng Murdoch. That's a rumor pushed by the left and pushed by gawker (wonder why they shut down?). Do a search and you'll find his 'girlfriends' - none are Wendy.

    3. Trump didn't ask Russia and Putin to hack into an American entity --- he just assumed that they already had (along with China and other 'bad actors') and asked if they had the missing e-mails to pass them on.

    4. Where are Hillary's speeches to Wall Street which she so readily condemns? Trumps released his financials which are more telling. 

    5. YOU brought up about others meddling in our politics (2 Brits in fact). Countries have been meddling in other countries politics since the beginning of countries. All I was saying what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

      August 31, 2016 8:18 AM MDT
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  • Ahemmm..

    The FBI and the State Department believe twholeheartedly that Russian hackers are inbvolved.

    Putin's girlfriend certainly is Wendy Deng Murdoch. A fact that Trumpanzees are trying to discredit every chance they get.

    Here is Trump in his own stupid words pleading for Russian help to hack American interests: 

    Hillary's speeches to Wall street are not the issue right now. You appear toi be a Trump supporter.  Convoluting and distractions from the topic at hand are a typical tactic that seems to be MO for Trump supporters and his surrogates. This is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the traitorous, bigotted Alt-right darling, Trump

    (BTW...I am a Sanders supporter and I know fully well what shenannigans HC were up to and what the DNC did)

    Yes...I did bring up the other countries meddling. And I'm pointing out to you based on your retort, that America is the worst offender when it comes to sticking our noses in sovereign countries affairs.  Not only the Middle east, We've stuck our nose into other regions as well including South America and the so called "Banana Republics" on behalf of the corporations who buy our government and use our military as their private mercanaries.

      August 31, 2016 10:14 AM MDT
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  • 503

    It's not scary...Rosie !

      August 31, 2016 10:40 AM MDT
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  • 214

    Your name calling of the Trumps discredit your entire response as far as I'm concerned. Have a nice day.

      August 31, 2016 2:43 PM MDT
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  • That's balogna.  One word does not negate an entire discussion. 

    IMHO this is taking the easy way out because I successfully debunked your reply to me.  

     Have a pleasant day :)

      August 31, 2016 3:00 PM MDT
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  • 113301

    AARRGGHH! I was afraid you  were gonna  say that GJ! So what are we supposed to do? We have millions of supporters of a guy who has a MAJOR bromance going on with Putin.  I remember George W   Bush said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. I wonder what Trump has seen of Putin besides his naked chest? Putin does love to undress and ride horses and show us how macho he is. Yuck! Thank you for your reply and how do we convince Trump's enablers to knock it off, back off and abandon him? Thank you for your reply GJ! :)

      September 1, 2016 2:21 AM MDT
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  • 113301

     Well many Americans PREFER Putin to Obama so they are all just fine with it. Even the ones who deny it. Thank you for your reply GJ. Some former Patriotic Americans are slowly morphing into little Donald Trumps.   Committer of treasonous comments and traitor. That is not a good thing .The Trumpeters will defend him even when Putin takes over America and actually does become its prez. How jolly swell is that?

      September 12, 2016 4:17 AM MDT
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  • You can't convince them without an intensive de-programming system in place, similar to the de-nazification of Germany

    Ooop! Did I say that? Me bad

      September 12, 2016 9:02 AM MDT
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  • 2500

    There's only one?

    Any country that gets routine handouts from the USA or that is in economic competition with the USA, friend or foe, is doing all they can to gather intel and exert any pressure that they can to insure that the candidates most in their corner will win.

    That includes the Brits, the Germans, the French, the Israelis, the Saudis  the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese, the Koreans (both North and South) . . . the list has about 195 names on it.

      September 12, 2016 9:57 AM MDT
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  • 2500

    More of a Stalinist, are you?

      September 12, 2016 10:06 AM MDT
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  • 113301

    Nice rebuttal GJ! :)

      September 12, 2016 11:08 AM MDT
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  • Libertarian socialist, thank you

      September 12, 2016 2:14 PM MDT
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  • 35912
    Islamic people have been terrorizing people long before Reagan. One of the reasons Columbus was looking for a new route to India was to avoid the Muslims. The Crusades were started as a result of having to protect Christians from Muslims. The USA first war foreign was with Muslims.
    As I said long before Reagan and Bush.
      September 12, 2016 7:32 PM MDT
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  • Don't even go there. That's a fallacious argument.  Christians have been historically, every bit horrific in their actions as Islam.   

    German Peasants' War - 100k deaths for Christianity.
    Northern Crusades -  250-300k deaths for Christianity 
    Lord's Resistance Army -  200k deaths 
    Albigensian Crusade - 1mil
    Great Turkish War - 300k deaths for Christianity.
    The Crusades -  1-2 million deaths for Christianity.

    And this pales to the massacre of the North and Central Merican native peoples who were massacred by Europeans in attempt to "Civilize" them and convert them to Christianity. 

    Columbus committed genocide. He was worse than the people you claim he avoided.

    We could get into a deeper discussion about Hitler who was a Christian.  +6 million Jews killed.

      September 12, 2016 8:18 PM MDT
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  • 113301

    I don't know why some people wear blinders to what actually happened GJ.  I don't know whether it is a sincere belief that Christians/Americans are pure as the driven snow or that they know very well what the truth is but refuse to utter it and keep the myth alive. Thank you for listing what is certainly horrific historical facts. You will not get a  reply to this. It will be ignored by those who most need to read it and understand it and accept it. Sadly, Happy Tuesday GJ! :)

      September 13, 2016 2:07 AM MDT
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  • 35912
    Nice deflection. But we were discussing how it is not Reagan/Bush who caused Islamic violence. You claimed they were the Father's of The Islamic State and Islamic terrorism. You did not deny the examples of centuries of continuous Islamic violence. So you agree that the Muslims have been violent?
      September 13, 2016 6:23 AM MDT
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  • First, thank you for rebutting my reply. I want to make something very clear about my stance. I believe that ALL religion is bad. I am not a fan of either Islam OR Christianity.

    It's unfair to single out one specific religion negatively while ignoring the faults of the others. In this case, Islam is given the unfair disadvantage and Christianity is silently given a free pass.  This is the same strategy used when Homosexuals are accused of being pedophiles, yet nothing is said about Heterosexuals perpetrating this heinous act on a larger scale. 

    The same concept is being applied here.  I see a disengenuous attempt to demonize one belief system and raising Christianity above reproach by neglecting to mention that Christianity has been responsible for terrorizing and committing atrocitities on a much larger scale.

    Here's a great example, today it seems to be fashionable to try and get the LGBT on the side of Muslim haters by pointing out what Islam and Islamic countries do to gay people... Yet, the same voices neglect to mention the horrible things happening to gay people n Uganda, Russia, Barbados, Jamaica, St. Lucia and 69 other countries.  More troubling is that Barbados, Jamaica, and St Lucia are touted as great vacation places for Americans. Even more disgusting is that Most Trump supporters and Trump himself are actively embracing Putin & Russia.   The major justification for the hate is.........Religion.  

    I'm not deflecting. I'm pointing out an intentional attempt to make Islam appear to be the sole threat. 

      September 13, 2016 9:54 AM MDT
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  • 2500

    Ah, then you ARE like Stalin. He was a devout "socialist".

    Just like Hitler, and Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot . . . the list goes on, and on. How many deaths were those Socialist dictators responsible for, I wonder? ? ?

      September 13, 2016 10:25 AM MDT
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  • 35912

    No you were not pointing to all religions as bad.  You said Islamic State In Syria and modern Islamic terrorism was Fathered by Reagan and Bush.....Then deflected to say Christians did this.....centuries ago as if that is a justification for Islam to do the evil they do.  

    I am not on the side of any child molester....I am not on the side of any one who harms others for evil.

      September 13, 2016 12:04 PM MDT
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  • Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot  were not Libertarian Socialists or Socialists. They were dictators. 

    Hitler despit saying he was a Nationalist Socialist was a disctator who was also a christian and someone who embraced and encouraged capitalism.

    None of these people were really socialist any more than Augustine Pinochet was a freedom loving capitalist.

      September 13, 2016 1:29 PM MDT
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