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Praises be to the GREAT GOOD electricity. Without it no air conditioning or lights or internet or TV. A great gift?

When I can't sleep I just go to the internet and travel the world at any hour.  Or I could turn on the TV and watch some programs I've recorded. Or I could read or bake something.

In the gaslight days when people couldn't sleep I guess they could always read.

People survived without it for a bazillion years. But once they had it could they survive without it again?

What do you do when You can't sleep?

Posted - July 17, 2019

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  • 3719
    In gas-lit and earlier days I think many people tended not to stay up late anyway. Besides, houses were much harder to heat then.

    It struck me the other day our civilisation and society depend on two fossil and one chemical, minerals, and one energy form; possibly more than the rest put together.

    They are:-

         Petroleum and Coal (not just "fossil fuels" but also feed-stocks for many valuable chemicals).

         Iron Ore (which can be reduced to iron for further processing into steel, only by using coke derived from coal),

         Electricity (whatever means is used to power the generators). 

    Then we also rely very heavily on Copper (mainly for transmitting electricity) and Aluminium (for a range of engineering applications).

    Plus of course many other metallic and non-metallic minerals... but without Iron and Steel, and the wherewithal and knowledge to work them, we could have no Electricity, nor clean water, proper sewers, decent homes, readily-available transport, Internet, telephones, radios or televisions; and our scope with the rest of the minerals would be extremely limited.

    In a sense the 'Iron Age' was not a few thousand years ago. It started then, but we are still in it.     

      July 18, 2019 5:01 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    You fleshed out my question beautifully Durdle. It was one-dimensional and VOILA here we are in 3-dimension land. I did not realize the particulars you brought up that makes electricity possible. To me electricity is just another magical thing we have. But I did not think it through. It didn't occur to me how many things are related and what's necessary to have FIRST before you can progress to getting "other" and "better".

    I saw something about our next moon mission that focused mostly on the minerals available on the moon. We can harvest it! We can probably fight wars there one day over mineral rights. We can fight wars any time anywhere for any reason. SIGH. I'm gonna ask. Thank you for your reply and Happy Friday! :) This post was edited by RosieG at July 19, 2019 4:12 PM MDT
      July 19, 2019 1:41 AM MDT
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  • 3719
    I suspect if you were to carry out an informal survey, asking which are our primary mineral resources and why; very many people would be unable to answer beyond a few vague guesses. It's not just simple ignorance, but also we have become so accustomed to our services and utilities that we all too easily take them for granted and don't give a thought how they might have arrived.

    I used to work for a company with a large R&D side, and one day, on its Intranet's social-side version of Answermug, I asked,

    "How much mechanical engineering goes into the computer you are reading this on?"

    Most of the users were scientists but engaged in electronics work so I'd have expected better than I received. One or two hazarded a guess at the steel case and metal parts in the hard-drive; but I had the impression none had seen what I had. If you read the question carefully, and note what it actually says, you realise it does not ask what it contains as a finished product, but how much engineering it takes to make it. That includes but is by no means only, its direct metal components. The answer is a very large amount, and at very high quality; for making all of it, plastic parts too.  

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    Mining minerals from the moon has long attracted speculation, though whether it could be economical or would result in wars, is another matter. It doesn't contain anything not found on the Earth, though they might be in different concentrations or availability. Anyway, haven't we ruined enough on Earth already?
      July 19, 2019 4:26 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    I'll answer your question first. Yes we have indeed ruined enough on Earth already but that isn't going  to stop the ruiners from continuing on in their zeal to get more. Of what? Of everything. I am guilty of not giving many things a thought at all UNTIL I am inconvenienced. Electricity is a prime example. If it goes out in the heat of summer I focus on it or the lack of it. We have THREE REFRIGERATORS and I worry about food spoilage first. Then we are unable to watch TV or make coffee or have access to a computer even off line.  We have flashlights and candles we can use for "light" but it really isn't all that awesome. Then I think dark thoughts about the electric company and worry. But when everything flows smoothly it never crosses my mind other than the size of the bill we will receive if it's way too hot way too many days. Thank you for your thoughtful and helpful reply. I find out about things that interest me..things that don't make sense to me. Those things in which I have no interest I don't bother learning about. I guess I'm typical average ordinary in that regard. It's lack of something I rely on or presence of something/someone I detest that grabs my attention. Otherwise I remain blissfully ignorant! :( This post was edited by RosieG at July 22, 2019 9:06 AM MDT
      July 20, 2019 2:43 AM MDT
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