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Do window cleaning products attract more dirt than they remove?

I have a fairly new car and I have taken to cleaning it frequently. Washing and waxing the exterior paint and trim seems to actually result in...wait for it...a clean car. But I've found cleaning the windows to be a continual exercise in frustration. No matter what products I use or how diligently I go over things, I still see streaks and swirls of dirt.  The past few times I've washed my car, I have NOT cleaned the windows...and I haven't really noticed any difference. I don't end up thinking, "Wow, I wish I would have cleaned those windows." Quite the contrary, it seems to me that the not-cleaned windows (other than the inevitable cleaning from spraying them with car wash soap, rinsing, and drying them) are less noticeably dirty than when I go at them with Windex and other such products.

Does anyone have an explanation for this?

Posted - December 28, 2019

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  • 46117
    1.  There may be some chemical in the glass that repels certain cleaning products (not likely) 
    2.  Weather is a mutherhumper
    3.  You are not using the right cleaning products
    4.  Try vinegar and hot water.  Use newspaper or paper towels.

    If you do number 4, really scrub all evidence of dirt off.  THEN see what happens. If it keeps happening, you have purchased CHRISTINE or it is the weather.  *


    *upon re-reading this, I realize that half the window is on the INSIDE. Therefore, you have purchased the Beautiful Christine.  







    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at December 28, 2019 3:26 PM MST
      December 28, 2019 9:42 AM MST
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  • 1152
    I think you may have hit upon the answer.

    With the weather turning cooler and with more frequent rain, I think the glass may actually just be not getting dirty as quickly because:

    1) Rain cleanses the dust out of the air, so it doesn't settle upon the outside glass surfaces

    2) The cooler temperatures mean the interior plastics are not outgassing as much plasticizer as when it's hot. It's the plasticizer which makes the oily film on the interior glass that's very difficult to remove.

    With respect to window cleaning products, there's an auto detailer on YouTube named Scott who has been in the business many many years. In his video on how to clean glass, he says (near verbatim quote), "Take your favorite glass cleaner....It doesn't matter which one you use, they all suck!"

    What he recommends is using a very powerful citrus-oil-based cleaner called Citrol, then going over the glass with a conventional window cleaner to remove any Citrol residue. To get exterior glass absolutely spotless, he uses an electric polishing tool and super-fine abrasive compound to literally polish away any contamination and surface irregularities.
      December 28, 2019 10:11 AM MST
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  • 46117
    There is nothing in the world, including my face, that would cause me to go through this for a clean face, much less a  window. But then, again, do I really have to convince you of that?  I am not into spotless.  I think it is a recipe for a nervous breakdown.  I have germaphobes at work that are always sick but they are always looking for germs.  This is the same thing.  The window is clean enough.  No one cares.   This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at December 28, 2019 11:10 AM MST
      December 28, 2019 10:15 AM MST
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  • 1152
    Auto detailing is one of those disciplines where the level of obsession can rise very quickly. The temptation to add yet another product or tool to one's cleaning regimen can be quite strong.

    And, of course, if you're a professional detailer and people are paying you many hundreds of dollars to make their vehicles pristine, you actually need to acquire a lot of the top-end tools and products.

    That's one reason I'm fond of Scott on YouTube. He recognizes that the Average Joe or Jane just wants his or her car to look nice, and they're not looking for absolute perfection. So, he frequently recommends, "Hey, if the (cheap product or technique) satisfies you, don't bother spending your money or time trying to get from 90% perfect to 99.9% perfect)."

    For your situation, I recommend alcohol-based glass cleaner and microfiber towels (both available at dollar stores). That will usually get you to 90% perfect. This post was edited by SaltyPebble at December 28, 2019 10:27 AM MST
      December 28, 2019 10:26 AM MST
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  • 44608
    Christine is pristine.
      December 28, 2019 10:35 AM MST
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  • 11002
    It's possible that your car's windows are actually dirty on the inside, if the dealership did not clean them properly before delivering the vehicle. I had this issue once with a new car I bought. It's hard to tell what's inside and what's outside when you're cleaning glass. The inside is harder to clean because it has a film caused by the plastic and vinyl.
      December 28, 2019 9:52 AM MST
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  • 1152
    Yes, the inside glass (esp. the windshield) can be a real pain. But lately it has seemed like NOT cleaning the windows leaves them (subjectively) just as clean as when I go over them (inside and out) with various window cleaners.
      December 28, 2019 10:01 AM MST
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  • 46117
    Jane. That is it. The FILM.  I figured something was not coming off my windows on the inside and it always looks smeary.  And my car is very old.  It still does it.  
      December 28, 2019 10:08 AM MST
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  • 1152
    The best thing I've found for removing the oily film from the inside glass is (isopropyl) alcohol (though I suppose vodka or Everclear would work, too...). You can either use straight isopropyl alcohol (if you use the 99% pure stuff. The 50% stuff is mixed with glycerin, which will leave its own film), or you can buy any glass/all-surface cleaner with alcohol in it. The dollar stores often (but not always) carry alcohol-based window cleaner.
      December 28, 2019 10:15 AM MST
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  • 11002
    Once you get it clean, you'll be amazed at how much better you see at night.
      December 28, 2019 10:19 AM MST
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  • 44608
    No matter what you use, ALWAYS use a clean, dry cloth when wiping it dry. NEVER use a damp rag, as it will always leave streaks. I have been cleaning a tennis club for fifteen years and I quickly learned that.
    All of the above cleaning solutions will work as stated.
      December 28, 2019 10:41 AM MST
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  • 1152
    That matches some of the advice I've seen from auto detailers on YouTube.

    One suggests the following technique:

    1) Go over the glass with a clean dry microfiber towel (to pick up loose dirt and some of the film)

    2) Apply glass cleaner and agitate with a cloth. Then wipe dry with a microfiber towel

    3) Go over the glass one last time with a clean dry microfiber towel.

    That probably works for most situations.
      December 28, 2019 11:13 AM MST
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