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Toilets have a nifty history. For instance why are they sometimes referred to as "JOHNS"?

Allegedly before they got their modern name toilets in England were sometimes called JAKES or COUSIN JOHN'S.

Enter Sir John Harrington. Though they did exist somewhat in prior times Sir John Harrington in the 15th century invented the indoor flushing toilet. Which may be why to this day they may be slangingly referred to as JOHNS. After Sir John. To honor his contribution to toiletry.


Now Thomas Crapper invented the toilet flapper valve. He had his company name engraved thereon so folks thought he had lent his name to it and that is why sometimes a toilet is referred to as a Crapper. After Thomas.

Other slang terms abound in various countries.
I've heard of head and throne f'r instance. Or potty.

I wonder if anyone ever wrote a poem about toilets?

Posted - June 1, 2020

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  • 3719
    The  most common, semi-euphemistic slang term used in England now, is probably "loo".

    The word "john" is very rare in England, nowadays anyway, whilst  "potty" is short for " chamber pot" and generally now means the one used by very young children. The type used by adults is the "commode".

    When few homes were lucky enough to have the lavatory within the building, most people satisfied nocturnal needs with a chamber-pot that in some parts of England at least, was called the "guz-under", 'cos it "guz [goes] under the bed". My Grandad and Grandma had their loo in a brick outhouse at the end of the back yard - it was a flushing one! T'other grandparents' home were more up-market with the loo just inside the back door.

    Sailors, at least in the Royal Nay, call it the "heads", which might refer to the location of the seamen's toilets on 18C sailing ships often being in the bows - the head of the ship. An old British Army slang word was "khazi" (pron. as in "khaki") and this was lampooned in the 1960s comedy film Carry On Up The Khyber, in which the British colony's ruler's title  was "The Khazi". Khyber, from the Khyber Pass (a real place), forming English rhyming slang for what in English is indelicately called the "arse".  

    You also hear euphemisms like "smallest room" and "bathroom" - the later perhaps because many homes do have the w.c. in the same room as the bath.

    While the act of using the place has all manner of euphemisms:

     - "spend a penny", from the first public toilets having one-penny coin-operated locks to help pay for the provision and maintenance.

     - "leave the room"

     - "answer a call of Nature" 

     - "go to powder my nose". That's rare nowadays.

     - "relieve myself"

     - "inspect the facilities"

     - "take a natural break" or "comfort break". These are usually used in formal meetings.

     - "get up in the night" is a phrase that chimes particularly with males of wise and even wiser, age.  

     - "stretch my legs" rather depends on context and is often used almost literally, of going for a short walk such as to relieve the aches and pains of sitting in a moving vehicle or uncomfortable room for a long time. Its origins might be in the early railway carriages having compartments with not connecting corridor, so passengers had to sit with their legs crossed until the next station where, with luck, they had a couple of minutes in which to relieve themselves in facilities in the station building.    

    Railway stations built in the 19C in Britain had a Gentlemen's lavatory, just signed "Gentlemen" or "Gents", often placed outside of the main building; while within the building was the "Ladies' Waiting Room". It was indeed a waiting-room for the fairer sex only, but it also disguised the location of their necessary facilities - reached through a door from within that room.

    "Toilet" originally meant washing, as on getting up in the morning, and was still used to mean that in the 19C.
      June 3, 2020 6:28 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Wow! Who knew there was so much more to learn about toilets? Amazing Durdle! Simply amazing edifying educational informational and really fun to read. I wonder if there is anything more to be said about toilets or d'ya that topic has been covered completely? Hahahahaha. Just tickles my fancy that you would devote/invest so much time on a topic that is so lightheartedly and irrelevant to our reality in these dark times. Perhaps that is why you did so m'dear. Anything is better than discussing what's going on politically and virusly and racistly. My father thanks you. My mother thanks you. My sister thanks you. And I thank you. (from one of my favorite movies ...YANKEE DOODLE DANDY...said by James Cagney as George M. Cohan! :) This post was edited by RosieG at June 4, 2020 4:01 AM MDT
      June 4, 2020 4:01 AM MDT
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