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If a woman LIED to get a man into bed, is that fraud, rape, or women being women?

Posted - October 15, 2016

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  • 5808
    Woman being a sexual predator. 
    same as for a man....

    who was it that said
    "all is fair in love and war"?
    or was it lust and war?
      October 15, 2016 5:03 PM MDT
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  • 2148
    The earliest known origin of the sentiment "all is fair in love in war" is found in poet John Lyly's novel "Euphues: The Anatomy of Wit", published in 1579. The novel recounts the romantic adventures of a wealthy and attractive young man, and includes the quote "the rules of fair play do not apply in love and war". The first known appearance of the quote worded "all is fair in love and war" is in English author Francis Edward Smedley's 1850 novel "Frank Fairleigh" about the life of a schoolboy.

    Source:

    http://classroom.synonym.com/origin-all-fair-love-war-9976.html
      October 15, 2016 5:07 PM MDT
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  • 23400
    That question switch-a-roo is a good one! Makes both questions sort of reflective of each other ins several ways.

    :)
      October 15, 2016 7:19 PM MDT
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  • 2465
    I would say good lord, it took you women long enough to realize you could do the same damn thing to men that they've done forever to women.  lol
      October 15, 2016 7:50 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    It's a lie.  Period. 

    How do you lie to get someone in bed?  You SEDUCE them.    Rape is force.

    Since men are the biggest offenders of lying to get laid on the planet, I think this is a silly thing for you to write.   In the sex game women are always the victim because they are either prudes or whores.


    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at October 15, 2016 8:41 PM MDT
      October 15, 2016 8:39 PM MDT
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  • I don't believe women are.either or. Unless you're talking about the perception of some men, in which case I agree with you. Btw, the W word is one of the worst words there is out there, responsible as an excuse for hate everywhere there are men with mouths to say it. 
    What brought me to comment here was your assertion of seduction as a lie. Do you think it is?
    Do you not think that we seduce all the time, not only in sexual situations? Do you give seduction a negative connotation?
    I really would like to know your opinion on this seduction thing, Ms Sharonna.
      October 16, 2016 8:46 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    No, I didn't mean it that way.  I know it sounded so.  I meant that seduction is not rape.  But seduction is not necessarily a lie at all.  But if one seduces someone with lies, it is usually not rape either.  I put it poorly in my answer. 

    If a child molester lies to a child  to seduce the child  and the child becomes a sexual pawn, that is more than rape.  I didn't mean that one either. 

    I meant the standard.   You tell someone pretty lies to get them in bed.  That is not  rape.  That is lies and seduction.   Seduction only by itself just means a luring method of getting someone to do your bidding, sexual or otherwise.  This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at October 16, 2016 8:53 AM MDT
      October 16, 2016 8:50 AM MDT
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  • I got you, I understand. I have seen seduction given a negative connotation because of how some people use it as a tool for fraud and abuse. 
    Thank you Ms S. 
    I see what you mean now, I missed your meaning the first time. Th.
      October 16, 2016 8:56 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello T:

    Up here in Seattle, there's a guy who's being charged with rape because he advertised that he could get women parts in porn movies.  When they met, he told them they had to sleep with him first.  Some of them did.  Turns out, the guy had NO connection with the porn industry whatsoever and was just trying to get laid..

    Is that rape?? 

    excon
      October 16, 2016 8:54 AM MDT
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  • 33780
    No that is not rape.
    I tried googling and could not find where he was being charged. Are they going for 3rd degree rape because at least one claims she was black out drunk?  That to me would be rape but not the lying. 

    In Washington State, a charge of rape in the first degree requires “forcible compulsion,” meaning that the rapist uses or threatens use of a deadly weapon, kidnaps his victim, breaks in, or inflicts serious physical injury. Lack of consent, which the state defines as “actual words or conduct indicating freely given agreement,” enters the equation for rape only in the third degree. This post was edited by my2cents at October 17, 2016 6:35 AM MDT
      October 17, 2016 5:56 AM MDT
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