I dunno bout you, but supporting a ban on ALL Muslims entering the country is not only UNCONSTITUTIONAL, but it's DEPLORABL. You?

Hello AS:

Yes, and we have NO religious test.  That's what freedom of religion means. 

It's ok with me that you think I'm treasonous for supporting the Constitution...  By the way, I thought right wingers LOVED it..  No, huh?

excon

Freedom of religion only applies domestically. You really haven't thought it through. By your logic it's unconstitutional for the U.S. to declare war on another country because it's denying them their right to life.

Muslims are literally laughing at your weakness. They view it as giving them a divine right to conquer the west by mass immigration and high birth rates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JquXlQTBWOo

Wrong.

The Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states, "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

The 14th Amendment Section 1.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The reason the U.S. can kill its enemies abroad without due process of law is because the constitution only applies domestically.



This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at October 16, 2016 12:10 PM MDT

Hello again, AS:

The words, without due process of law, are meaningful..  A right means it can't be taken away, even WITH due process of law..  Quoting that same amendment, I have the right to remain SILENT.  It can't be taken away with due process of law.  I can't be compelled to be a witness against myself...  That right can't be taken away..  I can't be tried twice for the same crime..  That right can't be taken away.

The right to life CAN be taken away..  So, it's not really a right, is it? 

excon This post was edited by excon at October 16, 2016 8:30 AM MDT

Which rights are inalienable is not relevant.

When the U.S kills ISIS abroad it doesn't give them due process. If the constitution applied abroad, the U.S. would be obligated to attempt to arrest ISIS and give them trials.

Why do you think they keep radicals in Guantanamo? It's to get around the constitution because it doesn't apply to a base in Cuba. The right to silence is not respected there. (I don't agree with torture. Though there is a reason why they do it there, and not in the U.S.. It avoids the protections of the constitution.)

On the world stage the U.S. is sovereign and that's the end of it. It can do anything it wants. That doesn't mean it's morally right necessarily, but it can do it. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at October 16, 2016 12:10 PM MDT

Hello again, AS

WRONG AGAIN.

Oh, it's true that they set up Gitmo to get around the Constitution, but it didn't work..  Turns out, the Constitution DOES apply in Gitmo..

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/13/nation/na-scotus13

excon This post was edited by excon at October 16, 2016 9:35 AM MDT

The SCOTUS is wrong. Their ruling is completely inconsistent with how the U.S. behaves elsewhere in the world. If Trump wins he'll just stack the court to be more sensible.

I agree 100% that detainees should be given basic rights. Though that is the U.S. being compassionate not its constitutional obligation. They're not entitled to anything. On the world stage, a nation shows mercy as it chooses because it's sovereign.

 

This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at October 16, 2016 12:21 PM MDT

It is all Muslims. They don't have to be terrorists to cause a problem. They islamify the culture and conflict will come out of that. It always does. 

Every country in world with Muslim population greater than 15% and less than 100% has severe political and social unrest. Name one country with a significant Muslim population that enjoys multicultural harmony?

So when do we start "vetting" Right-Wing Authoritarian F***tards to see if they have violent propensities?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

Etc., etc., etc.

Oh, that's right, I keep forgetting that F***ING HADJIS are "special"...;-D...

If anyone (Muslims. Right right, left wing whatever) are coming into our country they must be vetted properly. No just Muslims EVERYONE.

And your evidence that they are not is...what, exactly?

[Sound of crickets chirping]

Yeah, I thought so....;-D...