Discussion»Statements»Rosie's Corner» Many folks say Trump isn't a real Republican. They don't know what he is, just what he isn't. What is a REAL REPUBLICAN?
The question I asked is about a REAL REPUBLICAN. Not a real politician. Unless you are implying that you cannot differentiate between a Republican Conservative and a Democratic Liberal. Is that what you are saying? If so I totally disagree with thee. They both have lots of warts t'is true but the warts are not all alike. Thank you for your reply TT and Happy Saturday to thee! :)
This post was edited by RosieG at October 22, 2016 3:54 AM MDT
I think what people mean by that is Trump is not the type of conservative Republican from the past that the Christian evangelists would fall all over. "Family Values" was something they were always pushing for many years. Trump doesn't portray any of that. He is pro-life and pro big business. But he sure is not an old fashioned type gentleman that Republicans used to like to put out there. Scary to think there is a segment of the population that would just vote for him on that abortion issue alone. Yikes!
Which has only recently become his position towards abortion. Like his position towards homosexuals. And so on. It's easy to change position if you don't really have one. So much for saying stuff like it is. He is more of a "politician" than the establishment has ever produced, telling anything to get votes. Yikes.
We will deserve what we get when go to the polls and vote PeaPod. We KNOW both of them very well. They both have a lot of warts. Different kinds but still they don't have a lot of beauty marks. Fingers crossed we choose the least evil dangerous person. Thank you for your reply and Happy Saturday! :) We vote by mail and mailed our ballots yesterday! Now we wait. I am not very patient about waiting! :)
X Supports appointing Conservative judges to the SCOTUS X Supports the 2nd amendment X Supports pro-life policies X Supports Securing our border and deporting criminal illegals X Supports Defunding santuary cities X Supports Lower Taxes X Supports Putting local control of schools (Repealing of Common Core) X Supports Repealing and replacing Obamacare X Supports a strong Military (Peace by Strength) Support lowering spending
Trump checks everyone of these listed. (Except the last one--His plans do increase Spending as have all Republicans a decades)
Wow, 40%+ of the US population has been voting for Fake Republicans for decades...;-D...
It's also interesting that your "Real Republican" platform boils down to Gunz, God, Gayz, Abortion, Lower taxes (for the wealthy) and racism/xenophobia...;-D...
This post was edited by OldSchoolTheSKOSlives at October 22, 2016 11:03 AM MDT
Wanting a secure country is not racist or xenophobic.
A candidate not meeting all categories doesn't make them fake.
I am not rich...I have never had my taxes raised. I get more back than I pay in. There is no such thing as a tax cut for me. Or most working class path people with children.
This post was edited by my2cents at October 21, 2016 9:37 PM MDT
SCOTUS judges -- The GOP has not nominated "conservative" judges in the conventional sense of the world. Instead, it has appointed Authoritarian judges who believe in the supremacy of government and corporate power over the power of individuals.
2nd Amendment -- Related ot the above, in DC v. Heller, the RAWF judges appointed by the GOP overturned decades of precedent (which is what "conservatives" would NOT do) of gun owernship being a collective right and invented an individual right, while still maintaining that the state has the power to regulate firearms.
On a broader level, this is simply STOOPID EBIL LIBRUHL-bashing. I support your right to own a firearm. I just differ with you about exactly what kind of hoops you should have to jump through to do so.
Abortion -- That's what you mean about "pro-life" policies. It certainly isn't about NOT allowing our government to obliterate people around the world in wars of imperial hegemony. You're perfectly fine with the 100,000+ F***ING HADJIS...er, Iraqi citizens our government killed in a war against a nation which was NOT an existential threat. Explain to me again how that's "pro-life" and NOT racist?
Border Security -- Neither party supports the one thing which would almost certainly cause most undocumented migrants to leave: Arresting and prosecuting the people who hire them.
Defunding "sanctuary cities" vs. local control of schools -- So, are you for federalism or not? Or is it entirely dependent upon whether Sp*cs and F***ING HADJIS are involved?...;-D...
Lower taxes -- I cannot recall in my lifetime ANY GOP tax cut plan that was matched with a corresponding reduction in spending. Hence, all of their "tax cuts" were illusory. They were merely "tax delays" or "tax transfers", the largest of which was using the FICA/SSI tax to partially offset the deficits caused by reducing other taxes.
Strong Military -- Per US Special Operations Command, since World War 2, the US military is 12-9-43 in its military interventions (with "win" defined as actually achieving the desired political outcome, which is the only legitimate reason to use a military). There were a LOT of GOP politicians involved in that dismal record.
So, either lots of people have been voting for Fake Republicans for decades (e.g. Saint Ronnie Reagan, who raised taxes 9 times and granted amnesty to illegal immigrants), your definition of "Real Republican" doesn't jibe with others' defintions, or your list of platitudes is borderline meaningless. Take your pick.
SCOTUS judges -- I want a judge who will defend the constitution as written who does not believe it is a living doctument to reinterpeted as needed/wanted. 2nd Amendment --It was ruled as early as 1846 that 2nd amendment is a individual right not any sort of collective right. Nunn vs GA 1846. "The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is, that any law, State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes this right, originally belonging to our forefathers, trampled under foot by Charles I. and his two wicked sons and successors, re-established by the revolution of 1688, conveyed to this land of liberty by the colonists, and finally incorporated conspicuously in our own Magna Carta!”
I understand that there are liberals who support gun rights. I know some of them personally. But the liberals opinions I am worried about are the liberals in Washington. They are the ones who have stated straight out in the open they want to take all guns. I am sure you know who they are.
Abortion -- Yes I mean abortion when I say "pro-life" just as when I say "pro-choice" I am also talking about abortion. Why do you think the majority of PP clinics that perform abortions are located in minority areas? Racist eugenics of the founder Margaret Sanger perhaps. PP has killed more blacks than the KKK and other racist organization could have ever tried. I am not going to rehash the Iraq war. It was not racist. It is about a leader Hussien who wanted to the world (specifcally Iran) to believe he had Nuclear WMD...he did have and used other forms of WMDs.
Border Security -- Neither party supports the one thing which would almost certainly cause most undocumented migrants to leave: Arresting and prosecuting the people who hire them.
Defunding "sanctuary cities" vs. local control of schools -- Defunding the santucary cities is still about local doing what they want. There are consequences for every action. I believe the local schools should reject common core even if it means loosing federal money.
Lower taxes and Lower spending -- Yes I said that in my answer. There are very few polictician willing to cut spending. They like to call spending that increased but not as much as was planned a spending cut. Which is not a cut. Every Pres has raised the national debt every year they were in office. (Even Bill Clinton--who somehow claims a surplus but the debt went up every year) "I cannot recall in my lifetime ANY GOP tax cut plan that was matched with a corresponding reduction in spending. Hence, all of their "tax cuts" were illusory. They were merely "tax delays" or "tax transfers", the largest of which was using the FICA/SSI tax to partially offset the deficits caused by reducing other taxes."--- I agree 99% with the exception that this applies to both parties not just GOP. The only politicians I know that are willing to truly cut spending are Ron and Rand Paul.
Yes, Reagan raised taxes but over all the tax rate was lower when he left office than it was when he left. and Yes he also granted anmesty....with the condition that the border was supposed to be secured. The anmesty happened but the border was never secured. This is why many policitians will not discuss an anmesty or other plan for the current illegals already here until the border is secured. (Fool me once....)
Thank you for your reply m2c and Happy Saturday to thee. If what you say is true why do so many Republicans/Conservatives insist Trump is not one of them?
They are going by positions he has had in the past. He was a Liberal in his past. The main reason several Republicans who are upset he told he didn't want their money because he was not going to owe anyone any favors. And they had all decided the nomination was going to Jeb.... Trump came in and ruined it for them.
So it's due to sour grapes then? It's confusing to me m2c. I know why Dems/Liberals don't like Trump. I imagined that the reason some Republicans/Conservatives don't like him were for the same reasons. You're saying it's probably more likely that they're ticked off at him for other reasons. OK. That makes more sense to me. Thank you for your reply m2c! :)