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Something else Constitution creators didn't expect. That the voting ability of all AMERICANS would be attacked from within. How could they?

That the determiner would be skin color.

I expect they expected citizens and politicians to be honorable and integritous about that. They were wobbly on other things like not electing a crackpot dipsydoodle in the first place.

They were the best of their time but inadequate in ours. Sadly.

Posted - March 15, 2021
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  • 34265
    Yes. They did. There is a reason the words "all men are created equal"...not all white men...not all free men. All men. (Meaning mankind aka humans)
    And phrases such "the right of the PEOPLE"...
    They worded it that way knowing it could and would be used to free the slaves and secure their rights.  
      March 15, 2021 8:30 AM MDT
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  • 10637
    "All men are created equal" is in the declaration of independence, not the constitution (which is what the above question reads)  At the time that document was written, there were many slaves in the colonies... and not all of the masters were, shall we say, "kind".  In fact, at that time many black skinned people were seen as inferior (sub-human???).  Those lofty words sound grand, but the ones who penned them weren't talking about blacks and whites.  They were talking about the British and the colonists.   The declaration of independence was a POLITICAL statement (as the document clearly states).  It basically says - we're people too!  You (the king) have screwed us over and over, so we are cutting ties with you!
      March 15, 2021 11:53 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      March 15, 2021 11:55 AM MDT
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  • 34265
    And the Declaration of Independence was written by the same people that wrote the Constitution. 
    And the Constitution gives rights to THE PEOPLE...

    Perhaps you should read the Bill of Rights. (First 10 Amendments to the Constitution...they were required to get the Constitution ratified so while they are called amendments they were there from the beginning)

    They speak of the rights of THE PEOPLE, The accused, the person, the owner (of the home).  Again NO mention of race, color, gender etc. As I said they knew when they wrote it would would be those words that would one day remove the evils of slavery from this great nation. They knew it and did not advocate to change the wording. 

    No one today it not being allowed to vote because of race. It is not racist to assume that a minority person is not capable of getting and using an ID to vote. Insuring election integrity is not voter suppression. Only registered citizens are allowed to vote in Federal elections. And we should make sure that whomever is casting that voted is who they are supposed to be. 
      March 15, 2021 5:47 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    And now the GOP is hell bent on making sure the voting rights of non-whites are made as difficult as possible.  Then, again, the GOP knows that if they do that, they might have a chance of winning some majority or other.  In a fair election, not so much.
      March 16, 2021 8:34 AM MDT
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  • 34265
    Not hard to show an ID. We do it for many other things. And to vote should be one of them.
      March 16, 2021 6:03 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    Please show me where I said no ID should be needed to vote.
      March 16, 2021 9:19 PM MDT
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  • 34265
    That is what GOP is passing. Laws that require ID to vote. 

     You were responding to my post talking about securing our elections with ID. 

     If that is not what you are talking about you will have to be clearer on how GOP is "making the voting rights of non-whites as difficult as possible." 

    This post was edited by my2cents at March 17, 2021 6:03 AM MDT
      March 17, 2021 6:01 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    When you close all but one voting location for thousands of eligible voters, that's making voting difficult.  When you remove ballot boxes for eligible voters to vote, that's making voting difficult.  When the Postmaster General removes hundreds of mailboxes for mail-in voting, that's making voting difficult.  Clear enough?
      March 17, 2021 10:33 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    Georgia Republicans passed no-excuse absentee voting in 2005. Now they want to end it.

    https://www.vox.com/22319450/georgia-election-no-excuse-absentee-voting-trump-election-integrity-republicans-brian-kemp
      March 17, 2021 1:48 PM MDT
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  • 34265
    Your article says Dems opposed it in 2005...so they should be happy now...right.  There was evidence of fraud in GA in the 2020 election. With the absentee ballots. It is still being investigated. A judge just resently (within the last couple weeks) ordered ballots to be submitted to examination. GOP is working to fix the flaws.

    That is already the law in my state.  We have no problems. This post was edited by my2cents at March 17, 2021 7:32 PM MDT
      March 17, 2021 7:30 PM MDT
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  • 10637

    It wasn’t until the 15th amendment was ratified in 1870 that black people in the US were given the right to vote.  It wasn’t until some 50 years later that women in the US were given the right to vote (19th amendment).  At the time, there were many people who strongly opposed those 2 amendments -especially the 15th.  Their hatred and bigotry didn’t die when they did, but instead was passed down to the successive generations.  From the time slavery first started in this nation (1600’s), many white people have considered black people inferior and unintelligent.  Wars were fought over that thinking.  Even though it has been proven repeatedly that this thinking is false, some still cling tightly to it. which, ironically, makes them unintelligent.

    Unfortunately, some of these people have weaseled their way into our government.  Backed by others of like mind, they seek to spread their hatred and bigotry throughout the nation.  “Sadly, many of the ones who have the power to rid our government of these racists have been duped into believing that these bigots are “loyal patriots”, and that the lies they spout are truths. 

    These politicians claim that they’re trying to make voting more accurate, when in fact they’re really trying to make harder for black folks as they usually vote against them.

      March 15, 2021 2:15 PM MDT
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  • 34265
    No wrong. The 15th amendment was passed because the Democrats in the south were passing laws preventing them from excercising their right to vote among other rights listed in the Constitution.   
    ie. Gun control laws were also passed to prevent black people from defending themselves and their property as well. (Seems in the big cities the Dems still doing disarming them)
      March 15, 2021 5:53 PM MDT
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