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Why are so many people falling for the Palestinian lie?

Posted - May 27, 2021

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  • 13277
    How many?
      May 27, 2021 9:47 PM MDT
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  • And what might that lie be?
      May 27, 2021 10:55 PM MDT
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  • 1817
    someone should pull out the cables that provide your internet connection 
      May 28, 2021 6:08 AM MDT
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  • 44649


      May 28, 2021 1:19 PM MDT
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  • 6023
    #1 and #3: 
    After the Romans crushed the Bar Kochba rebellion, back in 135 CE, Roman occupiers decided to not just kill Jews. In addition, they also wanted to destroy any future Jewish hope for freedom in the Land of Israel. They had a smart, yet devious strategy in order to accomplish this. They renamed the Jewish capital Jerusalem, and called it “Aelia Capitolina.” In addition, they named the land of Judea a new name: Syria-Palestina.

    That would make #5: Whomever the Roman governor was.

    #6 and #7:  Despite the best efforts of the Romans, it remained Hebrew and Judaism.

    # 8: Whatever the Roman currency was, at the time.

    #9:  US didn't have a currency.  Germany and England were under Roman rule, as well.  No idea if the Romans traded with Japan or China.

    #10:  I believe it fell to the Byzantine Empire in 390 AD.

      May 28, 2021 3:12 PM MDT
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  • 44649
    Yep.
      May 29, 2021 8:18 PM MDT
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  • 258
    Some people may not fully gather why Element 99 uploaded that image of questions. It is a serious of questions the answers to which tend to disclose, that is make clear, the false nature of Palestinian Arab propaganda.

    Edit:
    My answer to the discussion point can be seen further down (my third post).

    Posted: Robert, May 29, 2021 11:29 AM MDT.

    This post was edited by Robert at September 13, 2021 4:06 PM MDT
      May 29, 2021 11:29 AM MDT
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  • 44649
    Gimme a break...I'm Jewish.
      May 29, 2021 8:19 PM MDT
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  • 258
    It wasn't any criticism, but an offer of clarity for some who may not understand.

    Edit:
    My answer to the discussion point can be seen further down (my third post).

    Posted: Robert, May 30, 2021 8:13 AM MDT.


    This post was edited by Robert at September 13, 2021 4:09 PM MDT
      May 30, 2021 8:13 AM MDT
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  • 44649
    And I'm joking.
      May 30, 2021 4:34 PM MDT
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  • 258
    The question refers to "Palestinian lie" while not defining further what they may mean, which will tend to cause answers to be rather general in nature. I will try to be more specific.


    I believe that a fair assessment at what the questioner very likely means, would be:

    The Palestinian Arab propaganda falsely-validated by both the United Nations and the European Union and therefore mostly also followed throughout the international media, that:
    There were (referencing the British Mandate 1922 to 1948) a people called the “Palestinians” in a country called “Palestine” who were invaded by Jews, had their land stolen from them, their land illegally-occupied, and also have had (strangely) all at the same time, the following inflicted upon them:
    genocide / expulsion / Apartheid.
    That the “Palestinians” come from, variously and inconsistently (depending on the audience addressed) the:
    Canaanites / Philistines / converted Jews.
    That the Jews have no roots in Israel, and are also “fake”.


    The Palestinian Arab propaganda above-described, is falsely-validated within the U.N. and E.U. which since the end of the Holocaust became institutionally anti-Semitic (see pro-Palestinian Arab block-vote below); and also willingly believed by anti-Semites, by historical revisionists, and by those who have been mislead. 
    I have considered the above Palestinian Arab viewpoint, but have found that the things they say cannot be verified from objective-historical evidence, nor from objective-news.


    The Jewish people are the indigenous people of their ancestral homeland of Israel with unbroken presence there since Biblical times:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)

    Jew=Citizen of Judah - Judaism is both an ethnicity as well as a religion.

    Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland. Internationally-recognized history shows that the last indigenous sovereign state in the land of Israel (Roman-imposed name “Palestine”), prior to the RE-establishment of Israel in 1948, was the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah. It included the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights. Capital (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - Map:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hasmonean_kingdom.jpg


    There has never been any indigenous "Palestine" / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the "Palestinian" Arabs could base any claim on any part of the land of Israel.

    Jews and "Palestinians" under the British Mandate - Wrong!
    The verifiable facts:
    Under the British Mandate the inhabitants were: Arabs and Jews, both of whom were Palestinian !

    JEWISH citizens of the British Mandate were Palestinian: Irrespective of race or religion citizens of the British Mandate were “Palestinian”: 
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians


    Extracts from five British “Government of Palestine” passports, from which it can be seen that JEWISH citizens of the Mandate were “Palestinian”: 
    https://www.mediafire.com/file/p6hjhurn71h1w6w/British+Mandate+Passports_P1+Arab+name_PP+2-5+Jewish+name_P6+URLs.pdf/file


    The Media of the time referred to the British Mandate inhabitants, as:
    “Palestinian Arabs”, / “Palestinian Jews”, or as: “Arabs” / “Jews”.


    The “Palestinian Arabs” dropped the name “Arab” because they do not want you to understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles - two sources: 

    1) 
    - - - - Start of extracts: - - - -

    “[...] the Zionist project was very attractive to Arabs who were drawn to Palestine by the good wages, healthcare and sanitation offered by the Jews. [...] the Arab population of Palestine increased the most in cities where there were large numbers of Jews [...]

    [British] restrictions were placed on Jewish immigration in order to appease Arab troublemakers. However, the situation regarding Arab settlement was much more lax. [...] 

    the Arab population of Palestine had been in a state of flux for centuries and that the overwhelming majority were migrants from the rest of the Arab world and/or the Ottoman empire. This is important because it tells us that the postmodern notion of a deep-rooted Palestinian Arab history/culture is bogus. [...] 

    This explains why, historically, Arabs never talked about Palestinian identity - because there wasn’t one. They were Egyptian, Syrian, Moroccan, Iraqi and Ottoman Arabs, and many of them expressed allegiance to the concept of a Greater Syria.” 

    Extracts source: 
    “Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather: 
    https://richardmatherblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/

     - - - - End of extracts - - - -


    2) A further source:

    “The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931”
    by Fred M. Gottheil, 
    Middle East Forum - Middle East Quarterly, Winter 2003, Vol. 10, No. 1, pp. 53-64:
    https://www.meforum.org/522/the-smoking-gun-arab-immigration-into-palestine


    The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11401/palestinian-people


    The name: “Palestinians” aka “Palestinian people, the”, originates from about 1964, when the “Palestinian” Arabs changed their name to suit their unverifiable-territorial-claims:
    - - - - Start of extract: - - - -


    “When a user enters the word phrases “Palestinian people” and “Palestinian state” into the Ngram search bar, he discovers that they began appearing only in 1960.” 

    Extract source: 
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11401/palestinian-people

    - - - - End of extract - - - -


    The name “Palestine” is the Roman-imposed rename of Israel / Judah.

     

    The League of Nations in 1922 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate; an administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power, a region covering today’s: Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories - See second and third maps down, at:
    https://www.shamrak.com/Masada2000-HistoryofPalestine.htm


    The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political name as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judah / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Syria



    People tend to be mislead by the “halo-reputation” United Nations. The U.N. and its structures have for many years had a built-in pro “Palestinian” Arab bias. The “Palestinian” Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favor of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel being just one country.

     

    The U.N and “European Union” (which copies U.N. polices against Israel) are both fully-complicit with “Palestinian” Arab propaganda, by refusing to recognize the land of Israel as the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. Both the U.N and E.U. thus falsely-treat the Jewish people as “invaders”, and so also as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers” of the Jews OWN homeland (all the areas of land being of the prior Jewish kingdoms of Judah / Israel), likewise illogically of building “illegal-settlements” there, with Palestinian terrorism considered “resistance to occupation”.

    U.N. Anti-Semitic, Anti-Israel bias - “The U.N. and Israel: Key Statistics from UN Watch”: 
    https://www.unwatch.org/un-israel-key-statistics/


    In United Nations General Assembly votes on the Arab / Israel dispute, a requirement for a Two-Thirds Majority is often invoked, to prevent a U.N. vote passing in favor of Israel:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/12/1027881

     

    Why is the U.N. Security Council whose resolutions are considered binding, biased against Israel? The mentioned U.N. block-vote bias against Israel of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries, plus the influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading-power, gives the “Palestinian” Arabs more influence both in the General Assembly and in the Security Council, compared to Israel being just one country.
    S.C. resolutions passed against Israel are typically during the tenure of pro “Palestinian” Arab Democrat U.S. Presidents who decide not to use their veto.


    Thus the reader is entitled to consider that the U.N.’s many anti-Israel resolutions carry zero moral weight.


    Once the Palestinian Arabs had tricked Israel into granting them autonomy under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Arabs continued to claim ALL the land, working with the U.N. bias in their favor, thus influencing the International Media, and therefore the public.


    Conclusion:

    Why are so many people falling for "Palestinian" Arab falsehood propaganda against Israel?:
    Many are willing to accept it without demanding objective-verification because they are anti-Semitic. 
    Others are mislead through the anti-Israel bias at the U.N. and E.U., whose policies in turn influence the International Media, which of course everyone is reading / viewing.

    Posted: Robert, May 29, 2021 10:56 AM MDT.



    This post was edited by Robert at November 6, 2021 10:20 AM MDT
      May 29, 2021 10:56 AM MDT
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