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LOVE – 15 – 30 – 40 – What’s next? And why?

Category: Tennis Numbers.

Posted - October 28, 2016

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  • 34286
    Game over. Unless tied at 40 (duece) players must win by 2.
      October 28, 2016 9:58 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    Oomph. I had hoped for more. ;-)
      October 28, 2016 1:08 PM MDT
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  • This ... if you play your balls cards right.


      October 30, 2016 8:22 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    A vase? Oh. Her? Dang, hand me the racket and I'll serve some balls.
      October 30, 2016 8:56 AM MDT
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  • Let's make a deal: You take Crystal, and I'll take crystal. 
    To each his/her own, eh? ;-)
      October 30, 2016 9:01 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    The vase is yours. ;-)
      October 30, 2016 9:50 AM MDT
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  • Yeah, tennis is a good game but the scoring system is plumb retarded and nonsense.
      October 30, 2016 9:20 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    Right... Doesn't make much sense. Lol.
      October 30, 2016 9:51 AM MDT
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  • Not at all.   I think the French had a little too much Chartreuse and absinth when they devised it.
      October 30, 2016 9:55 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    Those used to be my favorite beverages for awhile.  You can see why I don't touch alcohol any longer.
      October 30, 2016 9:57 AM MDT
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  • That's some eccentric boozin'.
      October 30, 2016 10:03 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    That's some 30 years ago.  But I lied. I don't remember ever having Absinthe' come to think of it.  I may have.  My grandparents were European and had all kinds of exotic bottles I may have sampled.  But Chartreuse?  It was the only thing strong enough after awhile.  (sad, I know)
      October 30, 2016 10:05 AM MDT
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  • What about Benedictine?
      October 30, 2016 11:00 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    It's the French we have to thank for it? Oomph.
      October 30, 2016 9:57 AM MDT
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  • Them or the British.  Tennis is a British variation of a French game.
      October 30, 2016 10:02 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    I think the scoring system is British. But I'm not sure.
      October 30, 2016 10:19 AM MDT
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  • I think the "love" part might be but court tennis has pretty much the same silly scheme just slightly more convoluted.
      October 30, 2016 11:06 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    I was just lectured with a lovely story by MrWitch. :-)
      October 30, 2016 11:14 AM MDT
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  • It seems the reason for it lies in clock faces being used as a scoring system.  It's a good example of a less than perfect solution, but it was a solution nonetheless.  The tennis scoring system seems odd because we're used to more simplicity.  But it's only strange if you disregard the daily lives of people in the 15th century.  Most would be unfamiliar with the idea of 'visualisations' as we are, having very little to base them on.  But everyone (or at least everyone who mattered) was familiar with the image of a clock face.

    So it is a logical, primitive score board.  Perfect.  Except that the rules demand a game be won by 2 clear points.  Which leaves the clock face score board 'short' by 5 minutes.  Practical as ever, the esoterically inclined French, unwilling to abandon such a cool idea as a score board, knocked 5 minutes off and were able to make things fit.   Hence, 15, 30, 40.  If this is true, I wouldn't be surprised if it is also at least partly to blame for the 'advantage' system, which I think is there so people don't become even more confused.
      October 30, 2016 10:30 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    Thank you for an interesting historical explanation. I had to smile several times, not the least with the advantage remark in the end. :-)
      October 30, 2016 10:44 AM MDT
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  • More than welcome.  :)  I have a great deal of time for the French.  A truly wonderful people with a unique way of seeing the world.  They really don't care if it doesn't make sense, as long as it makes sense to them.
      October 30, 2016 10:52 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    I got French friends. :-)
      October 30, 2016 11:11 AM MDT
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  • 34286
    So why does Zero=Love? Is love French for zero? Very interesting. 
      October 30, 2016 11:09 AM MDT
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  • 17261
    Indeed interesting how LOVE came into the game. French would be nul or zéro as I recall it. Hmm.
      October 30, 2016 11:13 AM MDT
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