Didn't they claim Americans will not do these jobs that the illegals will do?

The part I was taking about is posted in the first paragraph of the article not the headline. 

Oh, well. Just read the first paragraph and that's all we need to know. These were trained, skilled workers who passed E-verify, not migrant fruit-pickers. I'm not saying that there are no immigrants that are filling jobs that Amercans will take, but you are using an anecdote about just 76 workers to draw a conclusion about all of them .

This post was edited by Jane S at June 21, 2025 7:13 AM MDT

You need to read closed these were illegals who committed identity theft by "borrowing" citizens Social Security numbers to pass the E-verify system. Yes, they were trained after they were hired. The company can now hire legal workers and train them.
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You need to read what I  posted or have someone explain it to you. The difference between jobs obtained by exploiting loopholes IS NOT THE SAME as the jobs that migrants do that employers can't find Americans to do.  

I clearly said that there are some immigrants taking American jobs, but that is not the same as saying ALL immigrants are doing the jobs Americans want to do. Even your hero, Trump, acknowledged that we may have to make adjustments for certain industries. 

I can never tell if you believe what you are saying or if you are just trying to stir the pot. I'd like to believe you're capable of understanding that you can't apply one situation to the entire country, but sadly, it doesn't appear that you can.

This is a meat processing plant.  This is exactly the kind of job we have been told for decades that "American will not do."  

Any job that an illegal is doing is taking a job from an American worker. 

Trump is not my hero.  Trump just happens to be the best President in my adult lifetime that actually supports what I support.   
Trump is wrong.  If we are willing to pay people an honest wage and give them hours, we do not need to import any workers. 
There should not be imported workers for unskilled labor. (And that includes the meat packing plants)

It's almost funny how you think throwing money at it will change things. The reason Americans don't want these jobs is because most of them have at least a high schoool education and speak English  so they can do a job that is not back- breakingly hard and mind-numbingly boring. If wages are raised for jobs like fruit picking, chicken plucking, or housecleaning, it would have to be to a point that those jobs are a lot higher paid than other jobs. There is currently a labor shortage in the US. Overpaying for jobs that don't require education or skills will not help that. If you don't believe we have a labor shortage, then you should do a little research.

You are either cherry -picking or missing the point that article also said some of those jobs were things like machinery repair and building maintenance. Not every job in a meat packing plant is the same. 

Is money the only reason that you do what you do? Would you give it up to pick lettuce for double your current income? Pesonally, I  made some career decisions that meant less money and higher personal satisfaction. Unlike a uneducated, unskilled, poverty-stricken immigrant, I and most Americans, have choices. A good example is school teachers, who are underpaid but love what they do.

In the real word there are no simple solutions to complex problems. This post was edited by Jane S at June 22, 2025 9:29 AM MDT

Again there is not a job in any meat packing plant that an American cannot do/will not do. If they are paid and treated properly. 

Would I pick cotton for double my current pay? Absolutely.  But I will not be treated be treated like a slave or mistreated.  And that is what these companies want to do with these imported worker and illegals
 They treat them like slaves and abuse them. Under the HB visa system if they stand up for themselves and quit, the employer can simply have them deported.  But hey, it gets them their cheap slave labor. 

Require work to qualify for welfare and you will be amazed at how fast the "labor shortage" will turn around. Ask Bill Clinton he knows it works.

I'd give you one week of this heat and humidity oiut in the fields for double your pay before you threw in the towel.  I don't think you realize how difficult the work is.

Trump's workers are under the VISA system so they are legal. 

Personally,  I do not think unskilled workers should be allowed to be imported under the HB1 visa program and if used there should be a high fee. And skilled workers the employer should have to pay a much more  significant fee to insure those imported are indeed needed for their skills that an American cannot do. This post was edited by my2cents at June 21, 2025 7:16 AM MDT

They can pay the minimum wage.  If that means fruit and veggies go up then they go up.  We owe that to our American workers.  
Employers just mad they are loosing their slave labors. 

Even the politicians are admitting it.   Who is gonna mow your grass, who is gonna watch your kids, clean your your house etc?   

I will do my jobs or I will pay an American to do it. I don't need a slave. 

Typical MAGA point of view.  If it doesn't bother me, it shouldn't bother anyone else.  Do you ever stop to think about those who may work full-time but still have difficulty making ends meet?  If prices go up, how do they manage, especially now that Trump is shutting down so many programs that help those with low incomes?  I guess they don't matter if they drop dead from lack of food or medical care - more for you. This post was edited by my2cents at June 22, 2025 6:46 AM MDT

All the more reason, that we do not allow illegals to take American jobs. 

The programs are not shutting down. The fraud is being removed.  The illegals that never should have been on the program to start are being removed.  The people who should be working are being removed.   

Illegal workers effect us all. Either in taking jobs or competing against slave labor...etc.

I find it difficult to believe that even you are that naive.  Let's see how many Americans will be applying for jobs picking fruits and vegetables when the immigrants are gone.