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Slartibartfast

If US conservatives are serious about reducing the number of abortions, why won't they support sex ed and universal healthcare?

Case in point, New Zealand, where abortion is legal but the per capita rate is only a fraction of that in the US. Comprehensive, evidence based sex education in school and access to birth control stop most unwanted pregnancies from happening in the first place. Support for mothers and families who want to have babies (including access to healthcare, family leave , subsidized childcare, child tax credits, safety nets for struggling families etc) so they don't feel the need to abort for financial reasons.

If conservatives in the US are truly worried about lowering abortion rates, they would be fighting for these things rather than focusing on women's healthcare choices. 

Posted - July 30
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  • 4729
    Good point, but it would seem that they really don't care about women having abortions, just that they can control what women do with their bodies.  
      July 31, 2025 7:57 AM MDT
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  • 35532
    Sex Ed is fine. 
    I do not want the gov in charge of Healthcare. The only problem I have ever had was from the gov causing the Dr to have to jump through hoops to be able to run the tests he wanted to run.   But instead he had to do several needless costly procedures first.  Then the gov vetoing meds that the Dr prescribed.  Again, causing the Dr to have to jump through hoops and argue with them to get it approved.


    This post was edited by my2cents at August 2, 2025 6:19 AM MDT
      August 2, 2025 6:18 AM MDT
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  • 17311
    You don't have a clue how universal healthcare works, do you? It's private insurers who cause doctors to jump through hoops, then veto treatments as being "too expensive" - or slapping massive copays on them. 
    All the government does down here is pay for the treatment that qualified physicians prescribe. Finis. The only time they get involved beyond that is approving narcotics where absolutely necessary - it does require Health Department approval to prescribe drugs of dependence, except during a hospital stay where post-operative opioids may be the only reasonable pain relief option (I had a morphine button for 72 hours after my discectomy and fusion, programmed to release no more than one dose every six hours).
    Do you know how many nations where medical bankruptcies occur? One.
    The only losers in a UHC system are the insurance company shareholders, and I'm not losing any sleep over them.
      August 2, 2025 11:40 PM MDT
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  • 35532
    I know who the Dr was fighting with and it was not a private insurer it was gov insurance who did not want to cover the prescription and the medical procedure.   So yes, I know exactly how it would work here.  
      August 8, 2025 7:33 AM MDT
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  • 17311
    The crux of your argument, and why it fails, hinges on one word - gov insurance.
    I've had two major operations, was on opioid painkillers for several years and the total cost to me was $0. No government delays, no red tape, I don't think they even bothered to check it. A specialist decided it was necessary, so it happened. So that's not how it works, not at all. Your doctor's secretary was probably incompetent, or being American the government "insurance" didn't know how it was supposed to work either. 
    I pay a 2% levy on my income tax, a tiny fraction of what private cover (with no copays) would cost me in the States. The government actually doesn't have the option to refuse, the only push back is that they won't subsidize brand name drugs when a generic option is available - pharmacists have a list of what's on the PBS (several thousand lines of Excel spreadsheet but a search is easy). The important thing is the ingredients, the label doesn't matter. This post was edited by Slartibartfast at August 8, 2025 7:42 PM MDT
      August 8, 2025 7:41 PM MDT
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