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Work = Depression?

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Posted - December 21, 2016

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  • 3934
    Sometimes, yes.

    I've had jobs where I could scarcely believe I got paid to do what I was doing.

    I've had jobs where I could scarcely believe I was putting up with what I was putting up with.

    Admittedly, the latter seems to greatly outnumber the former in the big wide world.
      December 21, 2016 7:58 PM MST
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  • 10052
    If so, people need to find other work. Generally speaking, I think that people who spend more time being productive, occupying themselves in a somewhat meaningful way, are less depressed than those who have too much time to think about how depressed they are, and how meaningless their lives are. But there are times/circumstances where people are too severely depressed to be productive.
      December 21, 2016 8:20 PM MST
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  • 3523
    Not to work is to be desperately poor, if not dead.  The trick is to find work that you love.  I've had that so it is possible. Good luck.
      December 21, 2016 8:50 PM MST
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  • 2971
    Yes. I would rather work and be depressed than be unemployed and depressed.

    It isn't necessarily "work", it is all the stuff that goes around it.
      December 22, 2016 7:10 AM MST
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  • 2327
    Day off = Hypomania
      December 21, 2016 9:07 PM MST
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  • 2971
    Very close to the truth...
      December 22, 2016 7:09 AM MST
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  • 3907
    Hello Mr.

    If the work I've chosen is putting a widget into its proper hole, time after time, day in and day out, I'd be depressed..  But, I've chosen to do something a little more stimulating..

    excon
      December 22, 2016 7:24 AM MST
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  • 3934
    @excon -- It's always nice being the boss. Not everyone can be the boss.
      December 22, 2016 7:27 AM MST
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  • 3907
    Hello again, OS:

    Actually, I think anyone CAN be the boss.  All they gotta do, is DO it.. 

    Maybe I can clear up some confusion here... I am nothing special..  In fact, I was a high school dropout with NO capital and a criminal record to boot, yet I started a company..  I've started several...

    excon This post was edited by excon at December 22, 2016 7:37 AM MST
      December 22, 2016 7:36 AM MST
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  • 3934
    @excon -- Ah yes, the My Personal Anecdote trumps all your silly macroeconomic and logical arguments counterargument...

    Are you really that underinformed?


      December 22, 2016 7:39 AM MST
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  • 3907
    Hello again, OS:

    Would I be wrong to suggest that you TOO are using YOUR personal history to bolster your argument??  You said "not everyone can be the boss".  I refuted it, because it's simply NOT true.. 

    My father always told me, "you have to crawl before you walk".  He, too, didn't believe ANYBODY could START at the top..  Then he watched ME do it.  I understand that what I'm saying is WAY out of the mainstream..  So?

    I bargained with life for a penny
    and life would pay no more,
    However, I begged at evening
    when I counted my scanty store.
    For life is a just employer,
    he gives you whatever you ask.
    But, once you have set the wages
    why you must bear the task.
    I worked for a menial's hire,
    only to learn, dismayed,
    that any wage I had asked of life,
    life would have willingly paid.

    So, I say again, using MYSELF as an example, ANYONE can be the boss.

    excon
      December 22, 2016 8:21 AM MST
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  • 3934
    @excon -- You miss the point. Yes, ANYONE can potentially be the boss. But NOT EVERYONE can be the boss. It's basic Ricardan economics.

    Poetry doesn't negate empirical reality.

    If I recall correctly, you have several employees in your business. Can they all be bosses? If so, doing WHAT? What unfullfilled economic niches are out there just waiting for your employees to start their own companies which would have enduring scarcity power so they can be their own bosses far into the future?

    [sound of crickets chirping]

    I don't begrudge you your success. I am happy that you've found a niche that works for you. But don't fall into the idiotic "If I can do it, everyone can do it" fallacy. It's just not true.
      December 22, 2016 8:30 AM MST
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  • 3907
    Hello again, OS:

    That's not the right question..  Can they all be bosses??  I suspect they CAN.  There's NO test.  Plus, I've seen some mighty STUPID people become successful.  If the criteria for success is the number of business's that succeed compared to the ones that don't, then NOBODY would be a success.. 

    But, that's NOT the right metric.  It's also NOT a zero sum game.  You're suggesting that if there were an ABUNDANCE of great restaurants in your city, there's NO ROOM for another.  But, I say there is.

    excon

    PS>  By the way, the word I used was "anyone", not "everyone". 
    This post was edited by excon at December 22, 2016 9:14 AM MST
      December 22, 2016 9:10 AM MST
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  • 3934

    @excon -- And I led off with the word "everyone", because it's more important.

    ANYONE can win the Lotto and live a life of luxury. No intellect is required.

    But NOT EVERYONE can win the Lotto and live a live of luxury. It doesn't work that way.

    And, yes, maybe there is room for one more good restaurant in your town. Maybe even two. But NOT ten, and certainly NOT a hundred. At some point, demand cannot support everyone's desire to be a restauranteur. That's why something like 90% of restaurants fail and go out of business within a few years.

    OK, so you know a few not-very-bright people who became bosses. That tells us NOTHING about the likelihood of any one person becoming a boss, just as knowing a few Lotto winners doesn't tell you what the chances are of someone winning the Lotto.

    Moreover, people like you who took chances and succeeded end up telling their stories to everyone who will listen. Those who took chances, failed, and ended up being night assistant manager at their local Taco Bell don't tell their stories. Survivorship Bias is NOT data.

      December 22, 2016 10:08 AM MST
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  • Man, you're always depressed.
      December 22, 2016 8:14 AM MST
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  • Yes.
      December 22, 2016 8:30 AM MST
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  • 8
    666
      December 23, 2016 4:57 AM MST
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  • 1523
    Not if you love your job, the work you do.
      December 22, 2016 11:39 AM MST
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  • 17703
    On the contrary, work is part of the equation for happiness.  
      December 22, 2016 10:35 PM MST
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  • Only if you feel trapped in a situation that you hate. 

    For most of us there are always options for creating change, 
    even if it means retraining.
      December 23, 2016 4:55 AM MST
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  • 8
    Only if you call a pornstar's job work
      December 23, 2016 4:57 AM MST
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