With The Donald on board Netanyahu will do whatever the he** he wants to do. Palestine? What do YOU think will happen there?

As per appropriate conduct between allies. Our stance is no different than with nations such as Canada, England, and France.

Israel has been a chit ally.  We waste more money on Israel and all they do is cause us problems.  It's totally different than those other nations.  England, Canada, and France doesn't depend on us for international welfare money and they don't bomb and fire on others to inch more and more land that isn't theirs.  Worst ally ever.

As I said to Rosie, read and consider the following rather than mindlessly spewing from a lack of knowledge:

Israel stops the expansionism of radical Islam in the Middle East, serving as well as a shield that any Islamist group such as ISIS will have to deal with before they attack the further-away Western countries. Not to mention, looking a bit back at recent history, that Israel blew up Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak back in 1981, and Syria's too, in Deir-ez-Zor, 2007. Iran's efforts at obtaining a bomb were also hampered by Israel's targeted assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists, and Israel is widely considered to have a hand in the Stuxnet virus. If Israel wouldn't have done all of the above, either America would have had to do it eventually, or the global balance of power would've been upset, something I'm sure the U.S. is happy in retrospect that never occurred, especially considering Syria, Iraq, and Iran all have a reputation as America's enemies.

The US learned a large amount of counterinsurgency techniques from Israel, which saved American lives in Iraq and Somalia. Israeli Special Forces urban warfare specialists also went to Fort Bragg in order to train US Special Forces personnel in aggressive counter-insurgency techniques such as assassination, for use against insurgents in Iraq.

Former Supreme Commander of NATO and U.S. Secretary of State, Gen. Alexander Haig said of Israel "the largest US aircraft carrier, which does not require even one US soldier, cannot be sunk, is the most cost-effective and battle-tested, located in a region which is critical to vital US interests. If there would not be an Israel, the US would have to deploy real aircraft carriers, along with tens of thousands of US soldiers, which would cost tens of billions of dollars annually, dragging the US unnecessarily into local, regional and global conflicts." 

Also, 90% of US aid to Israel is military. 75% of that is dumped straight back into the American economy, what with Israeli weapons purchases. Aid to Israel has been described as an indirect subsidy for American arms manufacturers.

Israel co-developed/co-develops multiple weapons systems with the US, along with giving the US a lot of tech that saved many American lives in US and Afghanistan. For example, the US has one of the largest fleets of Israeli-made UAVs in the world. The US also uses  the SIMON breach grenade, Popeye air-to-surface missiles, Python air-to-air missiles, Shoulder-launched multipurpose assault weapon (SMAW), that being a shoulder-mounted bunker-buster, as well as the SINGCARS radio, which is the most widely-used tactical radio in the U.S. Army's inventory, and the NTS (Night targeting system, used on Cobra attack helicopters).

Intelligence-wise, Israel benefits the U.S. greatly, as well. According to Maj. Gen. George J. Keegan Jr., former head of U.S. Air Force intelligence, America’s military defense capability “owes more to the Israeli intelligence input than it does to any single source of intelligence,” the worth of which input, he estimated, exceeds “five CIAs.” The amount of American aid Israel received between 1974 and 1990 in military grants was $18.3 billion. America received in return $50-$80 billion in intelligen­ce, research and developmen­t savings, and Soviet weapons systems captured and transferre­d to the U.S.

The U.S. also stockpiles fuel, weapons, food, and munitions in Israel, in case the U.S. ever needs them while in the region. Israeli ports are also used by the U.S. Navy.

- quora.com

Not to mention, of course, that the Israeli Mossad was responsible for hunting down, capturing, and bringing to justice Nazi war criminals such as Adolf Eichmann and others.



This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at January 28, 2017 8:30 AM MST

"Israel stops the expansionism of radical Islam in the Middle East,"
Reality:   Israeli dominance and expansionism is what drives and motivates Radical Islam along with the West's unfetted support for them.

"Former Supreme Commander of NATO and U.S. Secretary of State, Gen. Alexander Haig said of Israel "the largest US aircraft carrier,"
Translation:   They are a vital cog for the Industro-Military complex and keep the wars coming.

"Also, 90% of US aid to Israel is military. 75% of that is dumped straight back into the American economy, what with Israeli weapons purchases. Aid to Israel has been described as an indirect subsidy for American arms manufacturers."
Translation:  Israel is great way to channel and launder even more  tax-payer money into the WarPigs pockets who run the Industrial-Military complex by hiding it as foreign aid.
Yeah so they can take a little bit more land and inspire a little more animosity from the rest in the Middle East.


FAIL

You asked and the question was answered. That you don't like the answer because the info conflicts with your preconceived agenda is your problem. Your lack of knowledge gets you all worked up into a lather, but now you're hampered by facts. Bummer.

You're funny. 

No you failed to give actual examples.  You regurgitated the same old  neo-con rationalizing for supporting Israel.  Nowhere did you give any examples of mutual benefit  for us, but instead try to list all the negative things about Israel in positive light. Nowhere have you even tried to dispel or argue against the notion that 90% of Middle East conflict and radical Islam's rapid growth is a direct result of Western supported Israeli aggression.
You listed several problems they supposedly help us with ( in a limp manner at best), that are problems we face because of us being " allied" with Israel and giving them a green light to do whatever the hell they want.

So what do you suggest, wiping out Israel to placate our radical Islam friends? Herr Hitler and the Nazis would've loved you.

hahaha!!!!!! Yes the old any bad word against poor little Israel means someone is antisemitic and a Nazi.
This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at January 28, 2017 11:59 AM MST

I know. WHY? Thank you for your reply. Where the he** have you been all these years? Are you a supporter of Israel and a hater of Palestine? WHY?  Thank you for your response Glis and Happy Saturday. You must be happy as a clam at high tide because The Donald supports The Netanyahu completely. Different strokes.

You know what Rosie?   take your passive-aggressive insults and unsubstantiated assumptions and shove them where the sun don't shine.

What has Israel EVER DONE for America? Thank you for your reply CTG and Happy Saturday to thee! We pay them $3 billion a year and they use it to buy weapons to kill Palestinians or buy construction materials to encroach upon the West Bank further and further. What does Israel do in return for US? Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. Israel/Netanyahu is a TAKER. A MARAUDER. A CRIMINAL. Just the kinda guy The Donald likes a whole lot. Birds of a feather. :(

Hi Rosie:

What has Israel EVER DONE for America? The answer is a whole lot more than the Palestinians have. Please read and consider the following...

Israel stops the expansionism of radical Islam in the Middle East, serving as well as a shield that any Islamist group such as ISIS will have to deal with before they attack the further-away Western countries. Not to mention, looking a bit back at recent history, that Israel blew up Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak back in 1981, and Syria's too, in Deir-ez-Zor, 2007. Iran's efforts at obtaining a bomb were also hampered by Israel's targeted assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists, and Israel is widely considered to have a hand in the Stuxnet virus. If Israel wouldn't have done all of the above, either America would have had to do it eventually, or the global balance of power would've been upset, something I'm sure the U.S. is happy in retrospect that never occurred, especially considering Syria, Iraq, and Iran all have a reputation as America's enemies.

The US learned a large amount of counterinsurgency techniques from Israel, which saved American lives in Iraq and Somalia. Israeli Special Forces urban warfare specialists also went to Fort Bragg in order to train US Special Forces personnel in aggressive counter-insurgency techniques such as assassination, for use against insurgents in Iraq.

Former Supreme Commander of NATO and U.S. Secretary of State, Gen. Alexander Haig said of Israel "the largest US aircraft carrier, which does not require even one US soldier, cannot be sunk, is the most cost-effective and battle-tested, located in a region which is critical to vital US interests. If there would not be an Israel, the US would have to deploy real aircraft carriers, along with tens of thousands of US soldiers, which would cost tens of billions of dollars annually, dragging the US unnecessarily into local, regional and global conflicts." 

Also, 90% of US aid to Israel is military. 75% of that is dumped straight back into the American economy, what with Israeli weapons purchases. Aid to Israel has been described as an indirect subsidy for American arms manufacturers.

Israel co-developed/co-develops multiple weapons systems with the US, along with giving the US a lot of tech that saved many American lives in US and Afghanistan. For example, the US has one of the largest fleets of Israeli-made UAVs in the world. The US also uses  the SIMON breach grenade, Popeye air-to-surface missiles, Python air-to-air missiles, Shoulder-launched multipurpose assault weapon (SMAW), that being a shoulder-mounted bunker-buster, as well as the SINGCARS radio, which is the most widely-used tactical radio in the U.S. Army's inventory, and the NTS (Night targeting system, used on Cobra attack helicopters).

Intelligence-wise, Israel benefits the U.S. greatly, as well. According to Maj. Gen. George J. Keegan Jr., former head of U.S. Air Force intelligence, America’s military defense capability “owes more to the Israeli intelligence input than it does to any single source of intelligence,” the worth of which input, he estimated, exceeds “five CIAs.” The amount of American aid Israel received between 1974 and 1990 in military grants was $18.3 billion. America received in return $50-$80 billion in intelligen­ce, research and developmen­t savings, and Soviet weapons systems captured and transferre­d to the U.S.

The U.S. also stockpiles fuel, weapons, food, and munitions in Israel, in case the U.S. ever needs them while in the region. Israeli ports are also used by the U.S. Navy.

- quora.com

Not to mention, of course, that the Israeli Mossad was responsible for hunting down, capturing, and bringing to justice Nazi war criminals such as Adolf Eichmann and others.







This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at January 28, 2017 8:34 AM MST

Isn't that a two-way street Stu? Is Israel blameless and totally innocent in all of this? Are they angels that are being put upon and Palestinians the Devils? What has Israel done for the US? We pay them $3 billion a year and they  buy weapons with which to kill Palestinians or construction materials with which to build more settlements on the West Bank. Net is a CRIMINAL and of course that is why The Donald will let him do whatever the He** he wants to do. Just like The Donald supports whatever outrage Putin wants. I do lose sleep over it StuB. I am of Armenian descent and I relate to Jewish people primarily because they suffered the Holocaust at the hands of the Nazis and lost over 6 million of their people and Armenians suffered a holocaust at the hands of the Turks and lost over 1.5 million people. On death marches. BUT that doesn't mean I don't feel for the Palestinians. It isn't the people I detest. It is Netanyahu and his bully tactics and whiny ways. As long as you give him what he wants and don't cross him he will be polite. Israel would be so much better off without him. The world would too but he has such a tight grip on that country he will never let go Just like Putin in Russia. Netanyahu has zero interest in a  2-state solution or sharing. He wants it all just like any selfish bully would. That is my opinion. Thank you for your reply and Happy Saturday to thee StuB! :)

 

This post was edited by RosieG at January 28, 2017 3:45 AM MST

Pfft.  Other way around.   Israel has consistently taken more and more land from Palestinians in addition to what was handed taken and handed to them originally.  Get your facts in order.

What has Israel ever done for us? Why do we always take their side in everything? Why is  Netanyahu such a selfish bully? He is a CRIMINAL. He keeps building settlements on the West Bank and The Donald doesn't give a rat's a ** which gives Netanyahu carte blanche to keep doing it. I am disgusted. Thank you for your reply m2c and Happy Saturday to thee. I wish  the Jewish people would get rid of that bully Netanyahu and get in place a more reasonable, fair and honorable man. Israel has had such leaders before. I hope it will again. I pray it will again. Netanyahu is as bad as Putin in my opinion. And as The Donald. They should all go to a far-away cornfield and live together and leave us alone! :) This post was edited by RosieG at January 28, 2017 3:04 AM MST

Yes he is building settlements....it is Israel's land. Why would they give their land to a people who don't believe Israel has the right to exist? A people who do not honor peace agreements. A people who elect terrorists to be their political leaders. Why? If the people their wanted peace they could have had it more than once. But no instead of accepting the offer of land as their own and Israel having their own, they chose to attack Israel. And they lost not once but multiple times. Wars that Israel did not start. Israel has never been the aggressor but she does know how to win.  Well when you loose wars, many times you also loose land. 
Should the USA give back the entire southern part of our country to Mexico? We won that in war. 
What does Israel do for that $3bill? Much of our technology is actually Israeli technology that they share with us. They also are the only country who consistently votes with US in the UN. They also share their intelligence agencies with our agencies.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/107007/us-aid-israel-why-its-must-david-meir-levi 


This post was edited by my2cents at January 28, 2017 8:52 AM MST

Israel is not trying to push anyone into the sea. It is their land.  There would have been peace a long time ago if the Arabs would accept it and honor it. They attack Israel now as they did from the beginning. They were also given land..they choose to attack instead of choosing peace. When you go to war and loose land. When you attack again you loose more land. The fact that Israel is still willing to negotiate is a big testament to them.
We would never negotiate with Mexico to give them back southern states. 

Hello my:

It's NOT their land..  But, that's an argument that goes back 1,000's of years and we're not going to solve it here..  I SAY it's NOT because those who owned it, GAVE it to the Palestinians in 1948..  You say the Israeli's WON it in battle, fair and square..  Those statements are BOTH true and NOT true at the same time.

Look.. I don't LIKE the Palestinians.  But, I LIKE peace..  ALL the troubles in the Middle East STEM from THIS conflict.  It's been destroying us for more than 50 years, and if we DON'T solve it soon, it'll ANNIHILATE us. 

So, like ANY argument anybody has, it's NOT going to be solved by bringing up old scores.  It'll be solved by building bridges IN SPITE of old scores.

excon

PS>  Uhhh...  I'd GIVE Texas back to the Mexicans..  Yes, I would..
This post was edited by excon at January 28, 2017 9:20 AM MST

Then IF the Arabs there want peace all they have to do is agree that Israel has the right to exist and honor the peace agreement when they make it. And of course they cannot have Jerusalem. They have turned peace down over and over again. 
Are you gonna give Mexico California too?