Discussion»Questions»Computers and the Internet» What would have happened if an entire group of passengers stood up and refused to let security remove the man from the United flight?
Probably a lot of people would have been hurt or arrested, or both. The plane probably wouldn't have taken off either so nothing would have been accomplished.
I don't think, at that point, it would be a matter of expediting things or keeping things on schedule. Rather, trying to right a wrong, regardless of the circumstances. That would be an accomplishment, I think. But, yes... how many more people would have been hurt? That would be my worry.
I think none... Those ostensibly in control would have had to rethink their position and hopefully calmer heads would have prevailed. First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I thought the very same thing. I'm surprised no one did just that. I would have gladly forfeited my seat if it would have meant that man would not have to had suffered that indignity and abuse.
On one of the tapes, you can hear a woman yelling out about how wrong it is and she seems to be the only one being vocal. I do commend her for that, but I'm really surprised at the group as a whole.
You know, we look at 9/11, which was a tragedy and the "bad guys" we obvious. We hail the people who stood up and call them heroes. Why not now? Where were the heroes now? Easy to look at it from an outsider, I suppose.
Dear Just Asking, YES...that is what needs to happen; but our human history shows that to be very difficult for us. We tend to endure, and endure. The kind of behavior we saw from UA, it is actually more common that we realize - in more subtle forms, of course.
GJ, it is an old old story...same-old. It needs to end, somehow...actually, this is one of the places I am hoping the Internet will play a part...too optimistic?
True...It's practically written in stone, but we never learn do we???
I don't think you're to optimistic at all. The internet is a great way for others to meet with people who feel the same around the world rather than our own little social & professional bubbles.
The internet is power... the purest form of free speech and freedom of information
So the headline in the paper is "Plane seized by terrorists while preparing for takeoff. Terrorists neutralized. 10 terrorists dead and 16 critically wounded. Unspecified collateral damage to plane and other passengers."
Yes, that's another very valid point. I really wonder what the right way for this to have been handled was. I think we all agree it didn't go down well, but where were the defining moments and what changes could have mitigated the problem? Food for thought, I guess.
If a cop asks you to do something, you can refuse.
If a cop tells you to do something and you refuse, you have set a chain of events in motion that can only be stopped at some point, but never undone.
It appears to me that the passenger removed made a wrong decision. While his reaction is psychologically understandable, it is logically incomprehensible---and how it ended was no surprise.
And I hope that he is still able to be compensated for the type of treatment that he received.
I don't know what would have happened, but I would have appreciated seeing that happen. Considering how much violence those Gestapo agents were willing to commit to get one man off the plane, there's no telling how much further they would have gone. I found this to be a truly disgusting act on the part of the airlines and even more so on the part of the agents themselves. The Chicago police have shown themselves to be nothing more than thugs and I hope this doctor sues United for every penny he can squeeze out of them. He certainly has enough video evidence.
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