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How about it, two sets of standards? Any good? Why/why not?

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Posted - April 16, 2017

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  • Sapphi... This sounds discriminatory and is not like you.
      April 16, 2017 12:05 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Looking around it might be the flavor of time. We can all change, no?
      April 16, 2017 12:16 PM MDT
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  • No, I refuse
      April 16, 2017 12:46 PM MDT
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  • 17261
      April 16, 2017 1:47 PM MDT
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  • Some things you just don't comprise on This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at April 16, 2017 3:48 PM MDT
      April 16, 2017 2:29 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Okay. We demand same standards. Satisfied?
      April 16, 2017 2:34 PM MDT
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  • Good... I'm glad you agree... Everything except the  washing up... I hate washing up, you do it
      April 16, 2017 2:37 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    I want a dish washer, can I have one?
      April 16, 2017 2:43 PM MDT
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  • I suppose next you'll want a glass washer too.... Sheesh, where does it end
      April 16, 2017 2:45 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Don't they come in sets?
      April 16, 2017 2:55 PM MDT
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  • No, they're not like socks
      April 16, 2017 3:01 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Oomph. Btw, did you find the missing sock?
      April 16, 2017 3:03 PM MDT
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  • Livvie has almost boasted she has it... Now she wants the other one too so she has a pair... And that's probably a conversation we shouldn't pursue :)
      April 16, 2017 7:11 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Oh. Better hand it over to her, unless you like pain. Ahem. 
      April 16, 2017 11:18 PM MDT
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  • 5614
    Well, often time we have higher standards for those expected to achieve and lower ones for those with more obstacles. The bar is lowered for those unfairly handicapped. Like in the game of basketball you wouldn't penalize a retarded boy for double dribbling. This post was edited by O-uknow at April 18, 2017 9:02 AM MDT
      April 16, 2017 1:06 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Maybe the retarded boy should be playing with other retarded boys, and that way they all would be playing under the same rules and standards. 
      April 16, 2017 1:49 PM MDT
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  • 5614
    That's not very inclusive ;)
      April 16, 2017 1:52 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    Sometimes inclusive is better made by equals playing equals. It is not very inclusive towards the non-retarded boy to judge him any harder for making a double dribbling. He might not be skilled ball player after all. It's only inclusive, if the retarded can be included taking part under the same rules. Inclusive is not about lowering a bar, but about how we can make the retarded take part under the same sets of standards to follow up on your example. It is in fact discriminating towards the retarded to say you're not as good as the other boys, and therefore we won't penalize you by the same standards. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at April 18, 2017 2:00 PM MDT
      April 16, 2017 1:58 PM MDT
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  • Just to add to this if I may..
    That period we just lived through  where everyone was a winner, everyone got a prize.. Most of them.. 78% across unis, now have anxiety issues because they never did learn that losing is part of life
      April 16, 2017 2:28 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    You may. And yes, to be a winner we also have to know what losing is. When my kids win in a game at home it's all by own efforts. They are proud because they know they won on their own, and not an adult giving in. Same goes for inclusion, it can work out great by extra support for the one being included, but not by making it any easier for them by cheating. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at April 18, 2017 2:00 PM MDT
      April 16, 2017 2:41 PM MDT
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  • A bloody  big yes to that
      April 16, 2017 2:46 PM MDT
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  • 5614
    It is the norm to start out with easy to win rules to build interest and confidence in playing the game. We do this for the very young. Why not for those handicapped and/or disenfranchised? What goes wrong is when easy to win rules are made routine indefinitely. There must come an end just as what happens with our young.  Easy to win rules should be introductory if having them at all but there is a valid argument that they must continue until a set goal has been reached. This post was edited by O-uknow at April 18, 2017 9:18 AM MDT
      April 16, 2017 4:27 PM MDT
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  • 17261
    It's no easy win, it's an easy loss treating people under different standards/rules. It's not true inclusion but only pseudo reaction making it look like everyone can take part on equal terms. Like stated, true inclusion takes more, and is more than words and easy wins. The comparison of a handicapped and/or disenfranchised with very young is part of the issue in our society. 
      April 16, 2017 6:03 PM MDT
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  • 7683
    Double standards...no way.....I always follow single standard;))
      April 16, 2017 3:15 PM MDT
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