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Germany and France want the UK to make a very quick exit. Will it be prolonged and agonizing or lickety split fast? Why?

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Posted - June 25, 2016

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  • The agreed maximum  timescale for withdrawal is two years 

      June 25, 2016 11:27 AM MDT
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  • 628

    Hello there Rosie

    With everything this involves from intelligence to currency and trade to immigration and various other issues, tjis is going to be a longer process There are political questions and keep in mind this was a very close vote, so not everyone is on board.

    I also wonder how far Germany and France are from having their own "exit" concerns

    It will be interesting to see how it goes and who will be next..

      June 25, 2016 11:36 AM MDT
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  • 359

    By the treaty law it will be a two year period where things will remain the same and negotiations for the new agreements will take place..  So 2 years is the minimum..

      June 25, 2016 10:34 PM MDT
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    Yeah, people, but it's two years from when Cameron, or his successor, notifies the EU officially of the withdrawal, and he is stalling on that. As for my answer to Rosie's question, the best I can do is, f____d if I know!
      June 25, 2016 11:21 PM MDT
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    How do you make this fast?  The repercussions will last for decades. 

      June 25, 2016 11:37 PM MDT
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  • 113301

     So it was an option then that was already provided for SN? I did not know that. Thank you for your reply and Happy Sunday. So why then would Germany and France say they want it to happen quickly?   Is it possible for the two years to be accelerated by some mechanism? :)

      June 26, 2016 1:42 AM MDT
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    This whole thing has got me in a very anxious state des. For one thing why in the he** did stock markets worldwide TANK? In the US it dropped 610 points (a value in excess of $800 billion) and worldwide it tanked over $2 trillion worth. That should get everyone's attention. In addition Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain with the EU but as part of the United Kingdom they are asking for a referendum vote and I suppose would have to break away from the UK and cleave unto the European Union. Is the UK prepared to become Great Britain and actually stand alone? There are hints of homophobia and racism and bigotry and certainly nationalism inherent in the mix which mirrors the Donald J. Trump bid for US president .  I just had a terrible thought. What if all the countries of the world were led by a Donald J. Trump? I will ask that question. You saw it here first m'dear!Thank you for your answer my friend and Happy Sunday. It is going to be a worldwide bumpy ride. Shades of Bette Davis! :)

      June 26, 2016 1:50 AM MDT
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    Then why would Germany and France have asked for a quick exit Adam? I'm confused.  Thank you for your reply and Happy Sunday! :)

      June 26, 2016 1:50 AM MDT
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    This is beyond confusing my friend. WHY would Germany and France ask for a "quick exit"? Could it take a lot longer than two years? My feeling when I read that was the purpose of the request was to let the UK know they were not that important and the sooner they left the better off everyone would be. You've heard of that song "Hit the Road Jack" ?   I got the feeling that Germany and France were telling the UK to leave and not let the door hit their butts! Like "who needs you?" Why did stock markets worldwide react so strongly? How can everyone be so affected by this? I knew what EU meant but I had no idea it was that important to the world. Ignorance has its benefits. You don't worry about things you don't understand. Now I know more than I want to know and that is precious little and I'm very worried. Are you worried too HarryD?   I expect stock markets will drop further  on Monday Fortunately Jim and I are not stock investors but I'm sure there are a lot of folks who are poorer  on paper anyway because of what happened on Friday. I wonder how much value will be wiped out on Monday? Any idea? :)

      June 26, 2016 1:58 AM MDT
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    I don't know Sharonna. I got the feeling Germany and France were telling the UK to "Hit the road Jack" and not let the door hit them in the butt. Like saying "who needs you?" So maybe they were using "quick" relatively and meant don't drag it on for years. I dunno. Thank you for your reply! I don't know if anything will be become easier to understand. Right now it's chaotic and I don't do well in chaos. :(

      June 26, 2016 2:01 AM MDT
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    Do you know hat it means Fifi?  If so would you share it with us? I was informed by others that the process is supposed to take 2 years. Can it be accelerated or are they saying they don't want it to drag on for many many many years? Thank you for your reply! :)

      June 26, 2016 2:47 AM MDT
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  • 359

    Because they want to cause Britain to suffer some form of economic difficulty..  And they want to appear strong to the other populations that might be thinking of doing the same as Britain..  But still the treaty says that no EU agreements can remain for 2 years.     There was some speculation that it could take 5 years for Britain to leave the EU, and the German and french leaders definitely do not want that.. 

      June 26, 2016 6:08 AM MDT
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  • It is in the interests of EU member states to resolve the issue as soon as possible Rosie.  They have had an increasingly difficult job in the last few years trying to placate growing EU scepticism in their own countries and will not want an extended period when this issue is still 'front and centre' in European news.  But it's too complex to deal with overnight and it won't be properly concluded inside the 2 year period specified.

    This is a fairly straightforward article that lays out the basic realities of leaving.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36632579

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      June 26, 2016 6:22 AM MDT
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    Oh.  Ok. So when they say "make a quick exit" they mean two years and not 5 or whatever else they might do to drag it out. Thank you for your reply Adam and Happy Sunday.

      June 26, 2016 6:29 AM MDT
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      June 26, 2016 6:31 AM MDT
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    Thank you for your helpful answer MrWitch and the straightforward easy-to-understand link. I get it now. They mean get to it and don't dawdle. You have 2 years! :)

      June 26, 2016 6:32 AM MDT
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    The two year term starts when the UK prime minister declares 'Article 50'. He/she is not likely to do that until at least outline agreement has been agreed. France and Germany want that started immediately to bully UK into accepting poor terms. They are also afraid of their own right wings being encouraged to seek their own exits. The key question is what happens if terms are not agreed when the two years expire. That could void the whole process
      June 26, 2016 7:16 AM MDT
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