Are you saying that they should be severely punished for exercising their 1st Amendment Constitutional Rights?
(The person that lost their job over the incident may very well have had his or her Constitutional (Civil) Rights violated by their employer if they weren't "on the job" or representing their employer in some capacity.)
This post was edited by Salt and Red Pepper at August 13, 2017 11:33 PM MDT
The first amendment is about freedom of expression, NOT freedom to be violent and harm other people. One of these clowns got himself charged with second degree murder for killing someone with his car.
That's EXACTLY right. But not every protester in C-ville was driving that car as you seem to imply. It was just one. And that one needs to pay for his crime, not every protester that was there. But you seem to think that they all should be painted with the same brush.
You should be sorry that you're all too willing to squash someone else's Rights because you disagree with their viewpoint. You should be expending your efforts to change their viewpoint.
I also find that the extremists viewpoints are not helpful for a cohesive society, be those viewpoints those of the white extremists or of the remnants of the Socialist NAZI party. But reinforcing their beliefs by trampling their Rights is NOT the way. Doing that didn't work out too well for 1930's and 1940's Germany, did it?
And before you point to the driver that ran down that poor girl lets wait for the evidence to come in. There's been speculation that he's been under psychiatric care for some time, even, possibly taking prescribed medications. (Would you condemn an 80-year-old driver for the same transgression if it happened for medical reasons?) So let's allow him to enjoy his Constitutional Rights rather than making a mockery of them. That's not going to restore the young lady's life.
Freedom of speech does not guarantee freedom from consequences.
You cannot say or do whatever you wish and guarantee there will be no negative reaction.
This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at August 14, 2017 12:54 PM MDT
Ah, yes "the liberals", what a nice phrase to have in a coherent discussion. Isn't it "the conservatives" who always make excuses for Nazis? Gotta defend your "brothers", huh? Let's stop with "the liberals/the conservatives" and discuss the issue at hand.
The reason I replied about what freedom of speech does not guarantee is the fact that "punishing" people for being white supremacists, i.e. shaming them or firing them is not necessarily a violation of the 1st amendment. Companies can fire people for online content.
This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at August 14, 2017 12:55 PM MDT
If they are proud enough of their views to march publicly expressing them, why should they object to being identified in this way? Any consequences that befall them are their own fault.
Salt and Red Pepper 