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Do you agree that June 23 was the UK Independence Day as one proponent of leaving declared? Or is it rather a day of mourning? Why?

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Posted - June 25, 2016

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  • In the long run, it will release Britain from the cumbersome entangled bureaucracy that the EU has spawned

    It may pull Britain back closer to  the USA with which it has more in common than most if not all European countries

    t will help to control immigration

      June 25, 2016 11:34 AM MDT
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  • 17846

    They are taking their country back.  I'm proud of them.  America is still asleep.  I'm still hoping for a wakening. 

      June 25, 2016 1:22 PM MDT
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  • Bez

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    I think of it as UK Independence Day.

      June 25, 2016 1:25 PM MDT
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  • Bez

    2150

      June 25, 2016 1:25 PM MDT
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  • Bez

    2150

      June 25, 2016 1:25 PM MDT
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  • 17846

    Heck yeah!!  I know people in other European countries want to do the same thing.  It seems France and Italy might be next. 

      June 25, 2016 10:01 PM MDT
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  • Bez

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    And why not, indeed? What favours did the EU ever do to any of the individual countries involved in it?

      June 25, 2016 10:16 PM MDT
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  • 46117

    I think it is a day of stupid and not necessary with a little of haste makes a lot of waste, thrown in the mix.

      June 25, 2016 10:29 PM MDT
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  • 739
    I think the use of that phrase was the cheapest trick the Brexit people pulled. I disagree with SelangorNight. Britain has more in common with Europe than the USA. The countries of Europe are largely liberal, and the US is very conservative. We are part of Europe, geographically. Also, the European Union, as a block, is as powerful as the USA. Which is one of the reasons I voted to stay in. I would rather be voluntarily part of a group of like-minded states, than forced, due to my nation's weakness, to be subject to the exigencies of a far right-wing superpower. And I include both parties in the US in that description.
      June 25, 2016 10:57 PM MDT
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  • 113301

    Those all sound good SN. Hopefully it will transpire are you believe it will. Thank you for your reply and Happy Sunday! :)

      June 26, 2016 3:31 AM MDT
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  • 113301

    Thank you for your reply AndyB and Happy Sunday to thee! :)

      June 26, 2016 3:32 AM MDT
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  • 113301

    We will see Sharonna. Apparently the UK is as divided in purpose and intention as the US is. I always looked up to them. But some of them are no better than some of us it seems. I wonder what, if anything, will come of this that makes things better than they were before? What if everything is worse?  What happens then? Thank you for your reply!  :)

      June 26, 2016 3:34 AM MDT
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  • 113301

    Thank you for your answer HarryD.  I would far rather be part of something big than an island unto myself. That way there  is an attentuation/mitigation of that which doesn't work....that which is weak...that which is harmful. There would be balancing factors. You know? Check and balance? That is always a good thing in my opinion.  :)                               

      June 26, 2016 3:38 AM MDT
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  • 1264

    Definitely Independence day, Whoa!!!

      June 26, 2016 6:46 AM MDT
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  • Bez

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    I don't feel that I have much in common with Europe, Harry. Geographically, I believe we are separated from Europe by the Channel and other bodies of water. At least, that's how it once was until some wackaloon decided to make a tunnel under the Channel. What a waste of time and money that was!

    I don't know what you think Britain has in common with Europe but I'm sure it doesn't apply to me, whatever you may be thinking. I voted Brexit because I am still scratching my head trying to work out what favours it ever did us British to join the EU in the first place.

      June 26, 2016 7:19 AM MDT
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  • Bez

    2150

      June 26, 2016 7:20 AM MDT
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  • Bez

    2150

    And a Happy Sunday to thee!:)

      June 26, 2016 7:39 AM MDT
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  • Technically independence is somewhat accurate, but all that has happened so far is that the UK has announced a majority wish to leave.  Grandstanding nonsense like that is rather silly, but egos will out I suppose.

    There's also no reason why people shouldn't be sorry about leaving, however they voted.  Club membership has it's benefits after all, as well as it's drawbacks.

      June 26, 2016 7:53 AM MDT
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  • 113301

    Indeed. Thank you for your reply MrWitch! :)  Here's what is so funnee hunnee. I am a loner. I am NOT a joiner. But I believe in team work, working together toward a goal and being gladly interdependent politically. Go figger! :)

      June 26, 2016 8:05 AM MDT
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  • 739
    I will try to qualify my earlier post. Let me begin by saying that I respect the point of view of the Brexiters, excluding the ones of the "No more Polish vermin" variety (I saw a little notice with those words lying in the street) even if I disagree with them. Britain has everything in common with Europe. We don't have the death penalty. The EU does not allow that. Now, there is nothing to stop a future right-wing government re-introducing it. No European country is dumb enough to make it a right to bear arms. The USA does, along with Guatemala and Mexico, and only the USA has no restrictions on it. The european countries have the right to education and health care. The USA is the only country with no constitutional right to education, and about half the world's countries have a right to health care, but not the USA. France is as close to the south coast of England as Cambridge is to me, and you can see it on a clear day. Ireland will still be an EU country, and is just over the UKs only land border. Our language is largely derived from Latin and Greek, with some French, German and Old Norse mixed in. To me, it makes no sense to not think of ourselves as part of Europe. I never felt in the slightest less British for being in Europe, nor did I feel our culture was in any way undermined. We still have fish and chip shops, dammit! I did feel a bit European, secondary to the feeling of being British. The days of the nation state are over. It had its purpose once, but it is an irrelevance now. The world is more linked up than ever before. Look at us. We have Rosie in California, USA, here, communicating with us guys in the UK, using technology that just wasn't available when I was a lad. Yes, I supported the EU, as a first step to an eventual global union. We need a political, social and economic structure which reflects the interconnected nature of the world we live in. Someday it will happen, because it has to. What a pity it has been put on hold.
      June 26, 2016 1:32 PM MDT
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  • 113301

    I agree with thee HarryD. I am for inclusion and working together for a common goal. I am not a nationalist nor an isolationist. I am a togetherist we swim, apartist we fall/fail.  You get my drift. I think it's natural to want it both ways HarryD but in the case of the EU you cannot. You have to choose. A choice was made years ago. Things change. That's why people get divorced. In this case the divorce is affecting the world, not just the two"people" involved. It looks as if there is significant buyer's remorse. The proopnents of leaving are resigning. Why? They won! Where is the celebrating? As far as I can see from across the pond people are just commiserating. Go figger! Thank you for your thoughtful analysis. Too bad I can't argue with any of the points you make about America m'dear. I could try but I"d be lying so I won't bother.

      July 5, 2016 4:54 AM MDT
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  • 113301

    Chaos reigns. There is talk of a referendum to vote again. The people who head the "leave" campaign are resigning. There is much buyer's remorse. The UK will probably dissolve since Scotland and Northern Ireland WANT to remain part of the EU and they cannot be part of both. Time will tell. Thank you for your thoughtful answer SN. :)

      July 5, 2016 5:40 AM MDT
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  • 739
    The people who voted on the basis of keeping the immigrants out are in for a rude awakening. To do our own trade deal with the EU, they will insist on free movement. However, as we will not be part of the union, we will have LESS control over it, not more - no seat at the table! This is what happened to the Swiss.
      July 7, 2016 7:50 AM MDT
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  • 113301

     If there were a re-do/do-over would the outcome be the same or different HarryD?  Thank you for your reply and Happy Friday to thee! :)

      July 8, 2016 3:09 AM MDT
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