would you still be a believer?
I asked you to find them for me, because you allege that they were not followed in the examples you post.
If an answer is wrong, simply look at what is given, and see where the mistake is made.
So far, you just assert that good Catholic principles were not adhered to and yet you cannot name any of those principles, much less show how they weren't followed.
And hey, one the subject of chasing wild geese, you might enjoy that great song by Frankie Lane from the 50's---The Wild Goose.
And I am curious---Shouting and bold-face type? to what purpose?