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Colluding isn't a crime. Neither is lying. UNLESS Americans collude with hostile foreign nations(Russia) and people LIE to the FBI. Right?

Posted - October 31, 2017

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  • 35558
    Please, state what law makes it illegal to collude with Russia. 

    Then we can all call for the arrest of Hillary Clinton.  
      October 31, 2017 7:31 AM MDT
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  • Howdy out there: I don't know much about this here colludin' business, but it seems like any time you make a deal concerning trading goods or controlling nuke clear arms or sending out that there  "far in"" aid, that smacks of colludin'. Of course when you lie to the law, you're settin' yourself up for a powerful amount of trouble.
      October 31, 2017 8:23 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Howdy right backatcha Uncle Bob! I don't get why we send out foreign aid to countries and keep borrowing money from foreign countries. It makes no sense to me at all. Lying is never a good thing. Conspiring with a hostile foreign government to damage American presidential elections is not something a patriotic TRUE AMERICAN would ever participate in or sanction or approve of. Sadly many so-called "Americans" don't mind that Russia interfered with the sanctity of our election process. They don't give a rat's a** about it. It takes all kinds and that kind is not my cuppa tea. Thank you for your reply and Happy Wednesday to thee! :)
      November 1, 2017 3:50 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    Collusion isn't illegal, but conspiracy is and one can make the argument that colluding with a foreign government against the U.S. is conspiracy.
      October 31, 2017 10:52 AM MDT
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  • 2500

    Making the "argument" is one thing. Making it successfully before a jurist and a jury of the accused's peers is quite another.

    And by the way, who's been charged with that particular crime?
      October 31, 2017 11:01 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    I'm sure you're smart enough to search the Internet to find the answer to your question.  In the event you aren't:

    "Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is charged with conspiracy against the United States, tax fraud and money laundering in the first indictment to come from the investigation of special counsel Robert Mueller.

    The 12-count indictment includes five counts against Manafort’s former business partner and protégé Rick Gates, who was ousted from the pro-Trump group America First Policies in April."

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357778-manafort-faces-12-counts-including-acting-as-an-unregistered-agent-of

      October 31, 2017 12:50 PM MDT
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  • 2500
    Interesting; still haven't had a chance to actually read the indictments that were handed down yesterday so I wasn't being flippant. 

    But a Grand Jury has a pretty low bar to meet to hand down an indictment. It's a whole lot different in an actual trial where those little inconveniences of "presumption of innocence" and "beyond reasonable doubt" things kick in. But on the flip side one should never do anything that will put their fate in the hands of 12 people that aren't smart enough to avoid jury duty. But I think that you're sharp enough to know that.
      October 31, 2017 1:38 PM MDT
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  • 19937

    I agree that a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. 

      October 31, 2017 1:49 PM MDT
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  • 113301
     Thank you for your reply Spunky and Happy Wednesday! :)
      November 1, 2017 3:45 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    You're welcome and Happy Wednesday to you. :)
      November 1, 2017 2:29 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):) Happy Thursday Spunky! :)
      November 2, 2017 3:04 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    Back at ya, Rosie. :)
      November 2, 2017 11:27 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      November 3, 2017 2:27 AM MDT
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  • 22891
    probably
      October 31, 2017 5:31 PM MDT
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