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Once impeached and removed from office I wouldn't put it past The Donald John from running again. Think he could ever "WIN" again? How?

Posted - November 8, 2017

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  • 17316
    The GOP could NOT be stupid enough to nominate him again, even if by some unlikely circumstance he hangs on until 2020.
      November 8, 2017 5:32 AM MST
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  • 113301
    You have more faith in them than I do Sbf. They are currently STUPIDLY hanging in with the man. He has a hold on them that is inexplicable. I wouldn't be surprised if they rallied round and re-nominated. They will already spend their afterlives in purgatory for what they've done so far. They have nothing to lose. As for any legality problems he has already broken the Constitution and no one gives a sh**...that is the folks who could DO something about it aren't. Congress is nowhere to be found. It all rests on Mueller's shoulders and as The Donald John so often says " BELIEVE ME"..the Donald John will find a way to replace Sessions, hire a toady to replace him who will fire Mueller and the Congress yellowbellies will support all of it.  They don't have a single spine among them. I'm gonna ask that question. Geez what a revoltin' development this is! Thank you for your reply! :)
      November 8, 2017 5:47 AM MST
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  • 35558
    GOP did not nominate President Trump....the people did. 
      November 8, 2017 12:49 PM MST
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  • 7280
    I could have sworn it was the delegates to the Republican Convention that actually nominated him.

    I'm not a fan of Ted Cruz, but the man had a pair and told it like it is turning out to be.

    Like Cassandra---he must have been cursed by the gods to know the future and yet never be believed when revealing it.
      November 8, 2017 1:51 PM MST
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  • 35558
    Delegates made up of the people...and those delegates are told whom to vote for by the voters. Same as the electoral college. 
      November 8, 2017 1:54 PM MST
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  • Once convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors, he would be ineligible to run, except like Socialist Norman Thomas, from a jail cell.After the upcoming Democrat sweep in next year's mid terms, They'll be able to bring charges because they'll have majorities in both houses. Charging and convicting are two different things.
      November 8, 2017 12:36 PM MST
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  • 35558
    Where is that eligibility  requirement at in the Constitution?
      November 8, 2017 12:48 PM MST
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  • 7280
    A good example of what I have recently said---your response indicates insufficient research and knowledge to realize that your question is as meaningless as uncle bob's statement is incorrect.
      November 8, 2017 1:39 PM MST
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  • 35558
    I happen to know that no such requirement exists...that was my point.
    What is yours? This post was edited by my2cents at November 8, 2017 1:52 PM MST
      November 8, 2017 1:50 PM MST
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  • 7280
    Your "points' are misleading.  I do not see them generally addressing the actual situation.  The Senate, if it convicts him after he is impeached, can take a separate vote and bar him from office if it so chooses.

    That is dispositive of the situation.

    Following you?---not hardly. I only read your answers when I am reading a question I am interested in and considering posting an answer.

    But responding to you is very similar to a moderator's job---and I am trying to better understand the type of person who does so.
      November 8, 2017 2:00 PM MST
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  • 7280
    For example, I did not respond to your comment "No, impeachment coming. But yes, why not run again and upset the establishment all over again(?)"

    That's two opinions and there is absolutely nothing wrong with them.
      November 8, 2017 2:02 PM MST
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  • 35558
    It did indeed address the issue. The issue was could an impeached President run again. Uncle Bob said he he would be ineligible....that is not in the Constitution. Which is what my question was pointing out. That is on topic and in no way misleading.  
      November 8, 2017 2:18 PM MST
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  • 35558
    No, impeachment coming. But yes, why not run again and upset the establishment all over again. 
      November 8, 2017 12:50 PM MST
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  • Exactly, why not.
      November 8, 2017 1:05 PM MST
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  • According to the United States Constitution, the president “shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” Based on this, reasons for presidential impeachment are open to interpretation. Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist Papers defined “high crimes and misdemeanors” as “breaking a law, abuses of power,” and “violation of public trust,” all of which are also open to interpretation. In light of the above, do the Democrats have a solid case or are they reaching for something that’s not there? Does their love for the United States and concern for the welfare of it's citizens, drive them to impeach Trump or is it their intense loathing for Trump and spirit of revenge against him drive them?

      November 8, 2017 1:04 PM MST
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  • 7280

    I had occasion to look this up earlier today---it's worth a read.

    https://www.constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm

    The question of impeachment turns on the meaning of the phrase in the Constitution Art. II Sec. 4, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors". I have carefully researched the origin of the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" and its meaning to the Framers, and found that the key to understanding it is the word "high". It does not mean "more serious". It refers to those punishable offenses that only apply to high persons, that is, to public officials, those who, because of their official status, are under special obligations that ordinary persons are not under, and which could not be meaningfully applied or justly punished if committed by ordinary persons.

    Under the English common law tradition, crimes were defined through a legacy of court proceedings and decisions that punished offenses not because they were prohibited by statutes, but because they offended the sense of justice of the people and the court. Whether an offense could qualify as punishable depended largely on the obligations of the offender, and the obligations of a person holding a high position meant that some actions, or inactions, could be punishable if he did them, even though they would not be if done by an ordinary person.

     

    Offenses of this kind survive today in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It recognizes as punishable offenses such things as perjury of oath, refusal to obey orders, abuse of authority, dereliction of duty, failure to supervise, moral turpitude, and conduct unbecoming. These would not be offenses if committed by a civilian with no official position, but they are offenses which bear on the subject's fitness for the duties he holds, which he is bound by oath or affirmation to perform.

      November 8, 2017 1:28 PM MST
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  • 7280
    I just did a little research with the phrase "  can an impeached president run for office again   "  

    Apparently, if a president is impeached and convicted and removed from office, the Senate, in a separate vote from the guilty or not guilty vote, can bar him from holding office again.
      November 8, 2017 1:35 PM MST
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