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He has the whole American idiot brigade on his side.
He is wealthy.
He has backers. Even though most of them are like rats leaving a sinking ship. NOT his family. EVER. His family is under his thumb. His sway. They are used to daddy calling the shots. Daddy owns them. They have the Stockholm Syndrome most kids and relatives have when the loved one who has brainwashed them with power and money, is broken. They are invested in the lie of him being the hero, the fixer and the problem solver. They are not going to ever let go of that image. Even if he gets taken away in a straight jacket.
I'm sorry, I must strongly disagree.
While I have enormous political disagreements with Donald Trump and consider him utterly unworthy of political office, there is little evidence he is mentallly ill.
I think there is amble evidence Trump is a narcissistic bully, but so was Steve Jobs, so is Larry Ellison, so is Newt Gingrich, so are many people in many walks of life. That doesn't make any of them mentally ill. The preponderance of evidence suggests Trump knows EXACTLY what he's doing and why he's doing it. Of course, his motivation is the Greater Glory of Trump, not a genuine desire to do the hard work required to actually be a halfway-decent President, which is why he often ends up with his foot in his mouth.
I fail to see a scenario where Trump's presidential campaign leads to his destruction. If (fates forbid) he wins, then he wins. If HRC prevails against him, then Trump replaces Caribou Barbie as the torch-bearer for the GOP's racist/xenophobic base, and he gets books deals, speaking engagements, seats on boards of political organizations, and so forth.
I have read testimony indicating the latter scenario (run, lose, be even more famous) was Trump's original goal. It was only because the GOP badly misunderestimated how much its base of Tea Party Tims had grown disgusted with its Plutocrat Petes that Trump was able to do as well as he did.
Old School, there is not one thing you said that supports the fact that Trump is not mentally ill.
I see your disgust of Hillary being lauded as the good guy, getting to you.
Narcissism is indeed a mental illness. Just because you can operate and function, does not mean you are sane. I suspect the people you are using as examples also have mental issues. They are just getting away with being nuts.
How can you NOT see Trump's total demise happening? He is having meltdown after meltdown and you think he is acting in a reasonable manner? Since when is KNOWING what you are doing a sign of mental health? And? I do not think he does know what he is doing. He is back-peddling and wheeling and dealing, and making no sense whatsoever. He will not admit that he has said one thing wrong. That is a sociopath. He cannot see any flaws whatsoever in his makeup. It is THEM. It is that liar Hillary. Anyone that is NOT on his side, is the enemy. They are fat, stupid, liars and thieves, all of them.
I am totally amazed you can just dismiss the now very remote possibility of his becoming President this way.
Book deals? We are going to have the most hideous 4 years ever. And if that DOES happen? Then I think the malaise of America is beyond reparation. And YES, I think most of the people that back him have extreme mental issues. I think America and the entire globe for that matter is suffering from compromised mental health.
He is the symbol of all that is unhealthy in a society of greed and need . And it is a mental illness. Plain and simple.
Rosie... Jeeze!
Trump is a big boy, he put himself into this position.
THIS IS POLITICS...Not a sensitivity help group
I do agree that Trump is mentally ill. He exibits all the traits of being histrionic, OCD, avoidant, narcissistic, passive-agressive, and Paranoid slathered with sociopathy.
Yes.. He's destroyed many lives and he needs to be de-throned with extreme prejudice
@Shar -- We actually mostly agree.
I am sticking with the legal and clinical definitions of "mental illness" because they are the ones which have greatest practical consequence, and my Abnormal Psychology classes taught me to be very circumspect about throwing them around.
You are using the term "mental illness" in a broader moral/spiritual sense and you make good points for your case.
I recall President Carter's chief economic adviser once used the term "banana" to discuss an economic slowdown that didn't meet the technical criteria for a recession. If you wish to make a similar term subsitution for narcissistic pathological anti-social behavior and say The Donald is bananas, I'm with you 100%....;-D...
Old, I personally would think it would be great fun to argue this point by showing you and proving to you that I am indeed, solid in my diagnosis and not throwing pat terms around here. Especially BECAUSE you are well-versed in such terms and what they actually mean.
However, I don't know if you are done with this discourse or want to continue. It is hard to do this on here without having to do a back and forth about it and I don't know how much you care to dwell on why I think TRUMP is indeed certifiable and not just bananas.
I do realize that each term, sociopath, narcissist, borderline personality, etc., can be examined in such minute detail that you need to be a board- certified psychiatrist to wade through it all. But, since this is a persona and not a machine, there are shades of grey.
Meaning, no individual is a total psychopath, total narcissist, total borderline. There is much evidence that Trump, indeed, possesses many of the qualities of narcissism, etc., that place him on at least the middle rungs when listing qualities one- by- one, of certain mental illnesses.
So, while we all may have certain tendencies, we cannot compare to someone who has these qualities to the degree that Trump has them.
For instance, I may be "selfish" , "self-centered" and to some it can be argued that I put myself first before others. So, I have some narcissistic tendencies. But would I ever be categorized as being as Narcissistic as a person who will get on a world stage and cause such hurt and mayhem to so many just so my name is in LIGHTS?
Narcissists can be super intelligent. They are at least cunning and manipulative. When it is taken to the degree of danger that Trump is entertaining? Certifiable. When you are a Dick Cheney? Terrifying beyond measure. Because? The whole dysfunctional country is watching and even applauding these creatures.
So, mental illness can be defined, but can it really be measured as sane or insane when there are so many shades of grey? YES, when taken to the degree that Trump has taken it? YES.
I'm sure you don't need my sites. LOL
...AND his breath stinks...
...AND his mamma wears army boots...
:-D
I've always felt that liberalism is a form of mental illness, but I digress. Are you really, I mean really, concerned about the mental health of Donald J. Trump, or his followers? His family seems to be perfectly happy with him. They appear to be supportive and on board with him. Certainly, they don't seem to exhibit any mental illness. It's unlikely that they would seek to have him committed. Looks to me like they're living the dream. That being the case, we should all be crazy. But while we're discussing mental illness, I've noticed that you seem to be all right with Hillary Clinton and her voluminous and outrageous lies. Out of control lying has all the appearances of a mental imbalance.
So how does mental illness confer control on the person who is mentally GJ? Thank you for your reply.
He's the meaticket. I guess that is more important than his mental state. Sad. Thank you for 
your reply Sharonna! :)
Do you follow his speeches? How? He is constantly contradicting himself...getting distracted...losing focus..attacking a gnat ....denying a truth..making up lies. He does this effortlessly continuously for no reason. He will attack someone for no reason. He keeps tearing off the scabs so the sore can bleed again. He is not in control of what he says. He does NOT plan it out. He prefers going by the seat of his pants. It is stream-of-consciousness blather 24/7. I think he should be evaluated. People would far rather think he is an evil man than that he is a very sick man. I think he is a very sick man and is deteriorating before our eyes. The rhetoric makes less sense, the volume is up, the attacks are more erratic and inexplicable and he keeps rolling on. He attacked a crying baby only minutes AFTER he told the mom he loved babies and didn't mind the crying. He did NOT skip a beat. He does that all the time about everything big or small. He has no ability to understand what is important and what is not. Everything is of equal importance to him at all times and as a result he never lets anything go. He cannot. He is not in control of his words. I say that is due to mental illness. You call it what you wish. Thank you for your reply OS. I think you give him far too much credit for being purposeful. He isn't, He is winging it by the seat of his pants and he doesn't know what the he** he is going to say next. It will depend on what thought assails him, who insults him and what his mood of the moment is. That is irrational.
Mental illness influences his decision making, mood, personality...
Persons from each political persuasion use the tired argument erroneously that the other is "mentally ill".
It holds no water and such vitriolic commentary invalidates everything that the person is says or at the least, casts doubt.
True dat. Thank you for your reply GJ! :)
Not all of then do that GJ. Just the rabidly extreme right self-righteous or the extreme left. I do recognize mental dysfunction when I see and Trump has so many mental defects it amazes me that someone with power and concern for him hasn't noticed it and tried to help the poor guy
. They let him roam freely saying whatever crosses that damaged mind. Why have they abandoned him like that? I think it is disgraceful. Thank you for your reply! :)
Perhaps Trump's abstract thoughts are shared by many and others are afraid to say what Donald says, Could these just be the thoughts of someone not groomed to be a career politician, someone not afraid of ditching political correctness.
