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According to stable boy the only folks who don't want the wall are Democrats. Is that true? Polls say 2/3 of Amiercans don't want it. And?

That must mean that 2/3 of all Americans are Democrats. Right?  Because as we all know the stable boy cannot tell a lie.

Posted - December 26, 2018

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  • 46117
    Even TRUMP doesn't want it. Not really.  He is stuck with his lie now.  Watch him squirm.

    There is a tape nailing him lying to the President of Mexico begging him to go along with saying he will pay for the  wall.  Out of his own stupid lying mouth.




    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at December 27, 2018 2:31 AM MST
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  • 520
    Did I miss something? The video does not show Trump saying anything, just walking on stage.
      December 26, 2018 8:09 AM MST
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  • 46117
    Well, look it up.  Thanks for watching.  There is a tape. Since you are actually watching, I will find it for you.  It may take awhile.  I saw it last week.

    Again.

     

    President Donald Trump urged Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to stop saying he won’t pay for Trump’s proposed wall on the border between the United States and Mexico, according to a leaked transcript of a Jan. 27 phone call between the two presidents published Thursday by the Washington Post.

     

    During his presidential campaign, Trump routinely promised to authorize the construction of a wall on the Mexican border and force Mexico to pay for it. Mexico’s leaders — including Peña Nieto — said they would not fund such a project.

    The Post published transcripts of calls Trump had with Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. The paper noted that the calls have not been declassified.

    According to the transcript, during the call, which took place just days after Trump was sworn in, the president told Peña Nieto, "the only thing I will ask you though is on the wall, you and I both have a political problem.”

    “My people stand up and say, ‘Mexico will pay for the wall’ and your people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language,” Trump said. “But the fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall — I have to. I have been talking about it for a two-year period, and the reason I say they are going to pay for the wall is because Mexico has made a fortune out of the stupidity of U.S. trade representatives.”

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    “Because you and I are both at a point now where we are both saying we are not to pay for the wall,” Trump continued. “From a political standpoint, that is what we will say. We cannot say that anymore because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that.”

    Trump offered to say “we will work it out" about the wall, but urged Peña Nieto, "you cannot say anymore that the United States is going to pay for the wall."

    Peña Nieto replied that “a lot of what is happening in terms of traffickers in Mexico is being largely supported by the illegal amounts of money and weapons coming from the United States.”

    He told Trump, “You have a very big mark on our back, Mr. President, regarding who pays for the wall.”

    Peña Nieto suggested to Trump "let us stop talking about the wall.” Peña Nieto argued that governments have a right to protect their borders, then reiterated his position that "Mexico cannot pay for that wall.”

    Trump replied, “But you cannot say that to the press.”

    “The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that,” Trump said. “You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.”

    Peña Nieto said the suggestion of a wall “goes beyond the economic situation because this is an issue related to the dignity of Mexico and goes to the national pride of my country,” and suggested again to Trump that they stop talking about the wall.

    Trump acquiesed.

    “I do not bring up the wall but when the press brings up the wall, I will say, 'let us see how it is going – let us see how it is working out with Mexico,’” Trump said.

    Some said the president's remarks indicate that he knew his pledge to force Mexico to pay for the wall was unrealistic.

     

     

    Per transcript: in call w/ Peña Nieto, Trump acknowledged that Mexico won't pay for wall but sought political cover https://t.co/7k1O1rPkcn

    — Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) August 3, 2017

     

     

     

    Trump told Nieto that if he said Mexico wouldn't pay for wall, "then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore"https://t.co/1F2cUXEXEa

    — Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) August 3, 2017

     

     

     

    Also during the call, Trump said he wanted to combat “a massive drug problem where kids are becoming addicted to drugs because drugs are being sold for less money than candy because there is so much of it.”

    “And we have the drug lords in Mexico that are knocking the hell out of our country,” he said. “They are sending drugs to Chicago, Los Angeles, and to New York. Up in New Hampshire — I won New Hampshire because New Hampshire is a drug-infested den — is coming from the southern border. So we have a lot of problems with Mexico farther than the economic problem. We are becoming a drug-addicted nation and most the drugs are coming from Mexico or certainly from the southern border.”

    Trump lost New Hampshire in the 2016 general election — though he did win the New Hampshire Republican primary. Granite State lawmakers blasted the president’s comments following the Post’s publication of the transcript.

    In a statement provided to NH1 News Network, Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican, said that Trump is wrong:

     

    It’s disappointing his mischaracterization of this epidemic ignores the great things this state has to offer.

    Our administration inherited one of the worst health crises this state has ever experienced, but we are facing this challenge head on. We have doubled our resources to support prevention, treatment and recovery; dedicated millions to law enforcements (sic) efforts to keep drugs out of our state, increased the availability of naloxone, and are rebuilding our prevention programs for our kids.

    We are already seeing positive signs of our efforts as overdoses and deaths are declining in key parts of the state. In spite of this crisis, New Hampshire remains the best place to live, work and raise a family.

    Both of New Hampshire's Democratic senators took aim at Trump's comments as well:

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    New Hampshire does suffer from a serious drug epidemic, the Post noted. According to data from the CDC, in 2015, New Hampshire had the second-highest rate of drug overdose deaths in the country, behind only West Virginia.

    Others took issue with the remarks as well:

    An unnamed White House official told the Post, “The president is a tough negotiator who is always looking to make the best possible deals for the American people.”

    “The United States has many vital interests at stake with Mexico, including stopping the flow of illegal immigration, ending drug cartels’ reach into our communities, increasing border security, renegotiating NAFTA and reducing a massive trade deficit,” the official said. “In every conversation the president has with foreign leaders, he is direct and forceful in his determination to put America and America

     

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  • 113301
    I heard about that Sharon. He is so full of himself that he would BEG the leader of a foreign country to make him look good and not have to mean a word of it or follow through. Sheesh. Thank you for your reply and the video and Happy Thursday! :) This post was edited by RosieG at December 27, 2018 2:33 AM MST
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  • 6023
    IF it were true ... He would have gotten it from Congress, since the Republicans have the numbers.
    But they don't have the votes.  Which means even Republicans don't want the wall.
      December 26, 2018 11:35 AM MST
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  • 32527
    Which means the establishment does not want the wall.
      December 26, 2018 2:34 PM MST
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  • 6023
    And why would anyone?
    The existing wall doesn't work ... they go over or under it.
    There is no increase for patrolling the border, which is what is needed.
      December 26, 2018 3:15 PM MST
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  • 32527
    They are proven to work.

     https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/ 

    Look at Israel. 
     https://www.amren.com/features/2018/02/border-walls-work/ 
      December 26, 2018 5:10 PM MST
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  • 6023
    They are proven to not work.
    Or are you saying all the tons of drugs brought in to this country are "fake"?
    They are not brought in through unofficial gaps in the border.  They are brought through official checkpoints.
    Without an increase in the number of agents or technology, all a wall does is funnel things through an already overloaded checkpoint.
      December 27, 2018 6:48 AM MST
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  • 32527
    This country does not have a wall. We have parts of a wall. 
    Follow my link to Israel's walls with Eygpt and Gaza. Hungary's wall. Most countries in the world have a border barrier. They have them because they work. 

    No one is saying we do not ALSO need more agents and more tech. But yes we also need about 1000 miles more of wall where the terrain allows it.





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  • 46117
    And?  THIS COUNTRY WILL NEVER HAVE ANY WALL.

    Just a big wall of lies.



    SPLAT.


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  • 113301
    :):):)
      December 27, 2018 2:48 AM MST
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  • 113301
    "IF it were true". I do believe stable boy is the iffiest alleged prez we ever had Walt.  Of course the Republicans are in total control. The House already voted for it..the whole enchilada..$5 Billion bucks worth  voted for by the toady trumpican sycophants rolling over s they whine. But stable boy lies repeatedly about everything all the time and it's really hard for the fact checkers to keep up with his lies. He tells the same ones all the time which complicates things. Will he or won't he blink? Will he or won't he back down from his ultimatum? Will we or won't have gubment? Tune in tomorrow. Thank you for your reply and Happy Thursday! :)
      December 27, 2018 2:43 AM MST
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  • 32527

    CBS Poll: 51% Of Americans Support Border Wall, Major Support For Family Deportations

    Polls change this one is from Jun 2018. I am sure CBS learned how to word their question better since then to get the result they want.




      December 26, 2018 2:33 PM MST
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  • 7280
    The majority of Americans (57%) oppose expanding the construction of walls along the nation's Southern border.   (Gallup pole---June, 2018)


      December 26, 2018 3:25 PM MST
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  • 32527
    As I said polls are manipulatable based on wording to get they result they want. 

    But using the polls, 

    86% of Reps and 8% of Dems
    Support the wall

    Using the popular vote totals: 62,984,828 Trump 65,853,514 Clinton

    54,166,952 (86% of Trump pop vot,268,281 (8% of Clinton pop vote)

    59,435,233 support the wall Of 128,838,342 or 46.13% support so not 2/3 opposition.

     

      December 26, 2018 5:01 PM MST
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  • 113301
    Which INCLUDES the ones you choose to believe m2c. You believe the ones that support your trumpican views and smack down those that don't. So whatever you say about those who disagree with you is also true for you too. If the shoe fits... This post was edited by RosieG at December 27, 2018 5:46 AM MST
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  • 32527
    Yes, that is my point. Polls and stats can be manipulated. 
      December 27, 2018 5:46 AM MST
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  • 46117
    Unless you want to do the manipulating.  Ever notice that?   Gee, all the major sources of news and information just HATE HIS ROTTEN GUTS.  Only people who love him are the idiots on FOX NEWS.  

    That is the poll you should trust.   Alex Jones.  Steve Bannon.  Judge Jeannine Piro, Laura Ingram.  Such heroes to Trump's cause.  FU .. I mean Tucker Carlson.  Such a blight on the image of a reporter of FACTS.  MORONS all.

    And you don't even have the ability to be embarrassed.  

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  • 113301
    :):):)
      December 27, 2018 2:43 AM MST
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