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IF "GOD IS LOVE" is true why would HE support those who hate? Why do those who HATE support a God who is love? Something stinks right?

Posted - December 31, 2018
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    1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

    1 John 4:16 16And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

    Proverbs 6 16-19 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

    Lev 19:17 You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbour, lest you incur sin because of him.

    1 Cor 13: 4- 7 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

      December 31, 2018 10:08 AM MST
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your reply kj and Happy Wednesday! :)
      January 2, 2019 5:13 AM MST
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  • 1305
    Happy New Year, and Happy Wednesday to you and yours Rosie :)
      January 2, 2019 11:27 AM MST
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  • 10783
    Yes.. yes it does.  However, it's not God, it's the foolish people who vainly use Him to try and justify their evil deeds. 

    Those who hate dont support God.  In fact, God doesn't need anyone's support (it's we who need His support).  These people claim they are Gods chosen people, or that they speak for God, or that God supports them or their "cause.  But their very actions show that they know nothing of the real God.   The "god" they support is the god of self, the god of money, the god of pleasure.

    While one attribute of God is love, it is by no means His only attribute.  God is also patient.  And although His patience far exceeds anything we can imagine, it, like ours, has its limits.  God is also wrathful (something people like to overlook).  Those who hate, hurt, kill, prey upon others in the name of God are only storing up God's wrath upon themselves.  Sure they may fool others, and even cause some to turn away from God (cursing or denying Him), but they will get what's coming to them.  When they reach the end of God's patience, they're in for a rude awakening.  It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

      December 31, 2018 11:07 AM MST
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  • 113301
    Sorry Shuhak but I don't believe God is a wrathful God. I don't believe HE takes any pleasure in those who hate or looks forward to punishing them. I see God as being very sad and perhaps even despairing that some of his children have gone so astray that their lives are centered on hate and fear and destruction of "the other". I do not buy the wrathful version of God. I guess the Old Testament version.  I think that is akin to people telling their children "the bogeyman will get you if you don't behave". I think it was just another way of having control and power over the people by those in the church who exerted domination and control and had all the political power when the Bible was written over decades by multiple men. Women were excluded. They had meetings to decide what went into the Bible( Council of Nicaea) and what was to be excluded. Devious deceitful men did that. Not God. Is the Bible a complete fabrication? I don't think so. But it surely is not THE WORD OF GOD unless GOD spoke personally to each writer and told each of them what to write. I do not believe that happened. I believe much of religion is formatted to control people so they will obey without question. I don't think GOD should be blamed for that. It is not of HIS doing as far as I'm concerned. It is the petty devious deceitful evil men with selfish interests who are power hungry who decided all of that. Blaming God is not a fair thing to do. In my opinion. Now do I KNOW for sure? Of course not. It is simply what I think and believe. Just one imperfect human trying to make her way in life as best she can. Thank you for your reply m'dear!  :) This post was edited by RosieG at January 2, 2019 9:47 AM MST
      January 2, 2019 5:23 AM MST
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  • 10783
    I didn't mean it to sound as if God were some cosmic bully with a magnifying glass and we were ants.  God never changes.  He's the same God today as He was in the Old testament.  Yes, He sounded much "angrier" back then, but if one looks closely they'l find HE was as merciful back then as He is now.  He let Abraham bargain with him not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.  Had there been just 10 good people in those cities God would have destroyed them.   Unfortunately, He only found 4 - and they weren't "models of righteousness" (teh daughers went on to have insest with their father), but God saved them nonetheless.

    If God is all powerful, all knowing how could a mere council (Nicaea) thwart His plans?  Satan himself couldn't thwart God's plan of salvation through Jesus.  The people at that council may have thought they were "picking and choosing", but God was in full control and what happened happened as He wanted it to.

    The 40 people who wrote the bible (yes, they were men) were inspired by the Holy Spirit when they wrote.  They wrote what God wanted them to write.  There's no way that 40 people writing at different times and places over the course of 1500 years could have come up with a book that never once contradicts itself.  

    Yes, much of the religion in the world today is formatted to control.  But that's not what the bible says.  Many try to make the bible say that by taking things out of context or adding things to it.  By doing this they have made complicated the simple message the bible puts forth.  They make the bible sound like a complicated rulebook.  In reality God is a father trying to teach His children how to live (just like we teach our children).   What does God want from us?  To do what's right, to be nice to each other, and to walk with Him.  (Jesus is the perfect example of that.) 
      January 2, 2019 10:24 AM MST
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