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Some people self-aggrandize self-serve and self-appoint. Now an ARBITER should have talent, experience and be CHOSEN by others. Yes or No?

"I know more than you and I'm smarter than you because I SAY SO. I'm gonna tell you what to think, what to say, what to do, how to react, what words to use, when to speak and when to not. I'll do all the thinking and deciding for you".

Someone tells you the above...maybe not verbatim. Maybe not in those exact words. But the message is LOUD and CLEAR.

What say you to such a one as that? Do you roll over whimpering "thank you" and obey or do you say elsewise? Like whatwise?

Posted - March 23, 2019

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  • 7280
    Well, if you want the truth, the cost may well be your psychological security.  I'd prefer that an arbitrator be right rather than just issue a binding opinion to supposedly settle an issue..
      March 23, 2019 9:15 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    I think my intention was not understood and the fault lies with me. There is no guarantee that the arbiter will provide truth. But if he/she is CHOSEN by others it gives some substance to the decisions the arbiter makes. On the other hand if the arbiter just shows up and tells you what the right thing to do is who the he** does he think he is? Why should I take his word for anything? Who made him boss? And specifically I have in mind those who show up only to  CORRECT never to contribute or support or disagree. In that 'correction" they are showing off. Wanting attention for the only thing they have to share...their superior knowledge of spelling and grammar. Now of course if someone states something that is FACTUALLY incorrect and is material and substantive that is a different ball of wax. But if I write "I'm happy. Are you happy two/to?" Why must the know-it-all arbiter of language show up to chastise me and remind me that the PROPER spelling of that to/two is too? I do get extremely annoyed with such folks. I was an English major. It doesn't bother me if the spelling in incorrect as long as I understand it. If I don't I just ask for clarification. I don't correct spelling. Why do some feel it is their obligation to correct the spelling of others? Doing so never adds to a conversation. It only interrupts it for self-aggrandizement of the interrupter. In my opinion! :) This post was edited by RosieG at March 25, 2019 10:40 AM MDT
      March 24, 2019 2:16 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    An arbitrator is an independent person or body officially appointed to settle a dispute.

    Whether or not an arbitrator will actually "provide truth" is less important than the parties' having agreed to arbitration and agreed to accept the conclusions and orders subsequent thereto by the arbitrator.

    Judge Judy on TV was an actual judge in the Manhattan family court system.  Judge Judy is an American arbitration-based reality court show ---which is why she can choose to not believe a given witnesses's testimony, and why her decisions are binding.

    I personally am not greatly bothered by those who correct spelling or grammar---although it can be irritating at times.  While my proficiency in both grammar and syntax is partly due to my study of Latin in high school, much of my writing style has been determined by reading grammatically and syntactically correct prose; and my spelling has been aided by seeing the correct spelling of a word in print.

    (Amusing anecdote: I use closed captioning on the TV frequently so that my wife can sleep.  The other night I sat upright in my chair in response to the closed captioning spelling a homonym in the dialogue incorrectly---I quickly realized how sill I was being.)

      March 25, 2019 11:07 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I was an English major tom. I know what is correct and what is incorrect. However I believe language is viable not dead. I believe it is best used to express whom one is and being playful and cavalier with it makes it more fun for me personally. Rigid. By the book. Immutable. Standard. Predictable. Where's the fun in that? Purposely going outside the lines and fighting my way out of the box others  live within is something I have learned to do as I got older. I am very confident in my ability to speak and write and spell and express myself CORRECTLY. I am ARTICULATE. It is no more than a parlor trick. It does not indicate intelligence. I worked in a research lab many years ago with scientists all of whom were geniuses. They could not spell and they didn't give a dam*. They didn't have the time to correct and be proper in the packaging of their ideas and inventions. That's what I was there to do. I am and always was a very good speller. So what? I'm not a genius. They were. So when some self-righteous person invades a thread to "correct" spelling or syntax or word usage my hackles get up and I realize I am in the presence of someone who thinks he is so swell. He isn't. It is ALWAYS a he. I don't know why that is. I'm going to ask. Now you will note I have been very correct in this response. I stayed within the lines in the box. Where's the fun in anything I wrote? I like fun in all its guises. I am not a fan of no fun. SIGH. Thank you for your reply! :)
      March 26, 2019 2:55 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    I prefer a smooth road rather than a bumpy road when I'm going for a relaxing drive  (and my wife also prefers it if she is trying to type a text or to make a phone call while in the passenger seat.

    And the bumps added to the road when it curves unexpectedly are useful to remind those unaware of their surroundings while driving to slow down.

    I will occasionally use incorrect grammar or syntax---or even various forms of words that do not flow as easily in the reading as the "better" choice might sound.

    And I refuse to comment on the use of "whom" instead of "who" in sentence 3 of your comment (oops, I've done it again---forgive me Brittany Spears.)  lol
      March 26, 2019 1:51 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Here is how it works tom. You invert the sentence and that lets you know which is correct by the sound of it.

     "Whom one is" inverted equals one is whom
    "Who one is" inverted equals one is who
    Now which sounds best to you?

    You refuse to comment on it yet you did. What am I supposed to make of that? That's like saying "I won't say I told you so". Whatever.

    Thank you for your reply and Happy Wednesday to thy and thine.
      March 27, 2019 2:28 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    Diagram that sentence and you will see that the object of the verb express is the phrase "whom one is."  That requires the nominative case of the predicate pronoun who---and that would be "who."

    I jokingly said I refuse to comment (since I seldom do on grammar or syntax issues) and then apologized to Britney Spears for co-opting her song title, Oops...I did it again.  (And now I have to apologize as well for inadvertently spelling her name wrong.) 

    Either the line in your answer, "Now you will note I have been very correct in this response" (or the devil) made me "do it"---comment, that is.

    But having established yourself as a person possessing a facility with words and the technicalities of both grammar and syntax, not only are your comments reliably error free in form, I would not feel comfortable correcting you even if the occasion should arise.

    Recently, I asked a question on another site.  I began with a singular verb because I intended to use a phrase as the subject of the question.  I reformulated the question in mid post, but forgot to change the "is" to "are."  No one corrected me, most likely because it was an unintended mistake and not because it was a lack of knowledge.

    I will buy that you chose "whom" in an exercise of poetic license. because the sound of it pleased you.
      March 27, 2019 8:42 AM MDT
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