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Is a church temple mosque or other place of worship a CONDUIT or an OBSTACLE to GOD? What makes you think that?

Posted - August 19, 2019

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    I'd think for most people it is a conduit, because it provides a peaceful haven dedicated to that one cause.

    Yes, a lot of places of worship now are also used for concerts etc. (though usually of sacred music or at least music by composers who wrote much that was), but their central role remains.

    Also you could argue the fine art, sculpting etc., in the great Anglican and Catholic cathedrals distracts from contemplation of worship, but I have not heard any such complaints in modern times. They are still places of daily worship as much as the simplest village church; and in many parts of the world, still in that use unbroken except perhaps in times of war or major building alterations, for many hundreds of years. That sense of great age probably helps too, not because it's somehow "antique" and "quaint" like some third-rate tourist brochure, but through the sense of communal continuity.

    There have been various iconoclastic or breakaway upheavals throughout history, and some of the Protestant sects established right from the start that their chapels would be very plain, not exhibitions of the arts and crafts. Whilst the notion of distraction was the main and stated reason, I think there was a social as well as theological element to that decision.


    I rarely go to church, and then usually for funerals. I am not even a believer! However, last year I attended by invitation, the Ordination of a friend as an Anglican Deacon. Though this was a highly ceremonial occasion lasting an hour and half (partly because there were eight ordinees) in the grandeur of a cathedral, it was still very much a religious service. 

    There was a sign of the times though... Communion was offered, and due to the size of the invited congregation, from three separate stations... with the bread at one being gluten-free!

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    Even I once felt, and very strongly, that sense of agelessness with physical building age, not in that cathedral but in a tiny 13C village church in a French Pyrennean village. There was one detail that did it, and it was not the obvious look of age, nor the white-on-brown tourist-attraction sign on the road outside.  It was the condition of some decorative stone balls, perhaps tennis size, around the plinth of a column in the transept,  like the marzipan balls on an Easter Simnel cake.

    Most had kept over the following 700 years the lovely, natural, matt buff colour of the local limestone used for most of the building, but those facing across the church were black and glossy.

    I was puzzled at first, not knowing much about Catholic services, then realised from their position in front of the sanctuary steps that they'd been used as hand-holds by worshippers, many of the older ones no doubt finding the movement physically awkward, kneeling for Communion.  They'd not been blackened and burnished on purpose, but naturally and simply by the thin perspiration and slight friction of so many hands taking part in much the same service at least weekly over perhaps 30 generations since the church was built.  

    My girlfriend of the time wrote in the Visitors' Book, the single word "Peace".
      August 19, 2019 10:15 AM MDT
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    Thank you once again for a very thoughtful informative and poetically beautiful reply Durdle. This took some time and I appreciate that you felt my question worthy of it. I have never been in one of those historic magnificent churches. I'm sure I'd be overcome with awe and wonder. I'm thinking specifically of a place like the Sistine Chapel. Certain church sacraments like weddings and christenings take on another dimension when conducted in church. But long I ago I left the church because I was tired of the petty ordinary human "pet" tricks. At 12 I taught Sunday School to little kids. That was the best of times in church. As I grew up and more aware I found that people got in the way. The pastor got in the way. Politics of the times got in the way. Not my cuppa tea. So for decades now I go direct to the source and don't bother with the middleman who wants to interpret for me what he thinks GOD means. I can figger it out for myself. The blasphemy of groups like Evangelicals who support a piece of trash like Donald John Trump is such hypocrisy. I sincerely and honestly believe they are abomination. So I go my way by myself but every day since I can remember I talk to God. Haven't heard from him in so many words but it doesn't matter. Talking is helpful to me and I expect HE doesn't mind. Happy Tuesday! :)
      August 20, 2019 2:45 AM MDT
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