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Republican pols are ABANDONING mr trump in DROVES. His base better run for office or mr trump will implode! ARE YA GONNA?

Posted - September 11, 2019

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  • 46117
    I hope you are right, but I don't know where you are getting this.  All I keep hearing is that 80 percent of Republicans are behind Trump.  


    I also cannot find any information on Trump calling Bolton after he fired him and said he missed him.  


      September 11, 2019 1:59 PM MDT
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  • 34845
    You heard wrong. His support among Reps is closer to 90%.
      September 11, 2019 2:34 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    Look.  Don't push it.  He has no PRAYER.  I don't care if Barbara* Bush rises from the grave to vote.... OH WAIT a minute.  EVEN SHE HATES TRUMP.  Must have been in that 10 percent.


    *  or is it Barbra?
    ** or is it Babs?
    *** Barbie?

    You know who I mean.  That one that said she had better things to do with her beautiful mind than think about body bags.  That one.  Even she cannot stomach Trump.  And she's dead.  LOL  This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at September 11, 2019 3:39 PM MDT
      September 11, 2019 3:31 PM MDT
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  • 34845
    Of course a Bush would not vote for Trump. They sold us out for globalism a long time agao. And the establishment picked Jeb in 2016. But Trump took it away from baby Bush.
      September 11, 2019 3:41 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    I see.  No argument.  
      September 11, 2019 3:52 PM MDT
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  • 2836
    Why?
    I'm sorry. It's a head-scratcher.
    Why would any self-respecting, God-fearing conservative support that guy?

    There is a vast amount of bewilderment from many(not just from me) as to why evangelicals and the Christian-right feel the need to run to a man like Donald Trump for help. I fail to comprehend why conservative evangelicals have so little faith in God's ability to work his plans and wonders. Why must they support someone of such low moral character like Trump to do gods work? Why not support someone of a higher caliber to let the Lord work through?

    I have heard that he will appoint conservative judges, build a wall (lol),
    Make America Great Again (but it already was),
    improve the economy (which was already on the mends after a disastrous 8-year flirtation with conservatism and was rebounding under President Obama administration),
    that he will stop illegal immigration despite the simple fact that no new walls have been built and Mexico isn't paying squat (However, walls were built by President Obama. You said so... and more undocumented immigrants were deported under President Barack Obama),
    that he will tear up NAFTA (Really? Never happened. It was renegotiated),
    and he will restart the defunct & antiquated coal industry.
    These among the many ludicrous claims, promises and outright lies being promised by this grifter. 

    Trump claimed he was going lower Drug prices and attempt criminal justice reform (both which I wholeheartedly support) but so... far, nada, zip, nothing.
    I wish I could support Trump.
    I really do.
    I wish I could like him
    I really do
    I wish I could be proud of him.
    I really do

    I'm waiting for this jamoke to do something astonishing!
    Something Amazing!
    Something Incredible!
    Something miraculous!
    Something positive!
    Something divine!
    He is after all... The self-proclaimed "King of the Jews".

    So once more I ask...
    Why would any self-respecting, God-fearing conservative support that jamoke?


    This post was edited by Jon at September 12, 2019 3:38 PM MDT
      September 11, 2019 4:00 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    Nice.  It was very good.  I liked it. But it still begs the question:  Why would ANY ONE support that thing.  

    Why would ANYBODY who is wearing a human suit seriously back something like this devil.  
      September 11, 2019 8:27 PM MDT
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  • 2836
    That sack of human excrement should be executed
      September 12, 2019 1:49 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    Look out. She's gonna give you a list.  Try not to look.  It will make you spend hours refuting it.  
      September 12, 2019 2:16 PM MDT
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  • 34845
    Of course...ask and you shall receive.
      September 12, 2019 4:25 PM MDT
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  • 34845

    1. Conservative judges both circuit courts and SCOTUS

    2.Build a wall (yes Every Pres since Bush Sr has built wall. But much needed repaired/replaced. Much was not a pedestrian fence but vehicle barrier...a person can simply step over it easily...about 1/2 of pre-existing wall was this car wall. Trump has been replacing this with a real wall that stops people. I do not care who pays....we spend more on illegals in 5yrs than the cost of the wall. I know their is no new footage yet this is because Congress placed limitations on what funding they approved. This reappropiated money will not have the limitation) 

    3. Opposing sanctuary city/states. We need to deport criminals. (Obama was able to do this....he did not have lawmakers fighting him to defend criminals)

    4. Improve the economy (It has improved...if Obama wants credit he should have made it better while he was in office....GDP had the "new normal" of 2%. Trump beat that right off the bat. Wages are increasing this also did not happen under Obama. As a business owner I know which Presidents I have done better under....and it was not Obama.  People have more money to spend now. Stock market up 5000 pts. Record low unemployment for most demographics.

    5. NAFTA,  It was renegotiated...now we wait on Pelosi who refuses to vote on it....Trump did his part.

    6. TPP...he pulled us out this is good

    7. Restart the defunct & antiquated coal industry. (I personally know coal mines that are open now that were not under Obama in S IL. )

    8. Opened ANYR and approved Keystone and Dakota pipelines

    9. We are now a net EXPORTER of oil/gas/coal 

    10. Tariffs to force free trade. (It is not free if we pay tariffs/subsidies but the other countries do not (ally or not) We have new factories moving to the US because of the tariffs)

    11. Lower taxes....we all got a tax cut

    12. Removal of regulations

    13. Support for Israel. (Embassy, gonglang heights, etc)

     

    14. He did pass a criminal justice reform bill (worked with Van Jones to do it)

    15. Pro life (yes this is about abortion

    16. Opiod programs introduced

    17. Pro 2nd amendment

    18. Took back virtually all of ISIS territory

     

    19. He has passed something aimed at reducing drug costs. It only went into effect July 2019...so we will have to wait an see if it helps.

     

    20. He has passed programs to help empower woman in the workplace. (Ivanka helped with this)

     

    21. Reforming VA

     

    22.  NATO allies are starting doing their part now

    23. Pulled out of Iran deal (guaranteed them a Nuke in 10yrs...this also falls under Israel support)

    24. Pulled out of Paris Climate Accord. Which is a money game. Guess who was expected to pay most (USA) also guess who recieves a lot of that money....China.

    25. Taking on China...something every President has claimed they would do...but never happened

    I am sure there are many things I am missing....but that is a start.

    I do not care about style. We have had style....got us nothing. I will take policy all day long.

      September 12, 2019 6:42 AM MDT
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  • 2836
    "I do not care about style. We have had style....got us nothing. I will take policy all day long."
    With God, it is all about love.  Whether it be the right or the Left, a believer or non-believer, no one is above being deceived. Trump is selling his snake oil and no surprise...he is a serpent. Buyer beware.

    What you have just done is prove my the entire point of my post and that point is that Trump supporters are hypocritical. Your response is a host of noninformation talking points that could basically be titles from a Trump Campaign flier... with all due respect, this was a very poor retort.


    1. Conservative judges both circuit courts and SCOTUS <- Conservative Judges to do not reflect the values of the majority of the US population. The primary role of the US Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution. The Supreme Court of the United States has the ultimate responsibility for settling disputes and interpreting the meaning of laws. It also determines what national policy will be when it applies law to specific disputes. The Supreme Court, the only court created by the Constitution, has the final say on all legal matters that come to it. It is the highest court in our system and there is no appeal from its decisions unless future courts reverse past court decisions. No. US Supreme Court justices are part of the Judicial Branch; Congress is part of the Legislative Branch. The Supreme Court does not play a role in writing bills or passing laws.

    2. Build a wall (yes Every Pres since Bush Sr has built wall. But much needed repaired/replaced. Much was not a pedestrian fence but vehicle barrier...a person can simply step over it easily...about 1/2 of pre-existing wall was this car wall. Trump has been replacing this with a real wall that stops people. I do not care who pays....we spend more on illegals in 5yrs than the cost of the wall. I know their is no new footage yet this is because Congress placed limitations on what funding they approved. This reappropiated money will not have the limitation)
    TRUMP PROMISED THAT MEXICO WOULD PAY FOR THAT WALL. HE LIED. Money is not being take from theUS military and FEMA.

    3. Opposing sanctuary city/states. We need to deport criminals. (Obama was able to do this....he did not have lawmakers fighting him to defend criminals) President Barack Obama had republicans fighting him from the day he took office up until the day he left when he was not allowed to appoint an SCJ which was his right to do so as President of the US

    4. Improve the economy - Yes...Isn't the economy wonderful? President Obama did a GREAT job after that horrific recession caused by republicans despite the obstructionism by republicans for Obama's 8 years in office. He did a fantastic job as the results are still in place today. It is to bad that we are headed into a recession, that the deficit has exploded, and Trump has to use artificial means like trying to keep percentage rates at bay and give unnecessary tax cuts.  2006-7 all over again.

    5. NAFTA Trump said he would tear up NAFTA. He lied STRAIGHT-UP

    6. TPP...he pulled us out this is good <--Bernie Sanders said this too. Give him credit like I shall give Trump . I dare you

    7. Restart the defunct & antiquated coal industry. (I personally know coal mines that are open now that were not under Obama in S IL. ) PLEASE PROVIDE THE NAME OF THE CLOSED COAL MINES THAT ARE NOW OPEN WHICH YOU PERSONALLY KNOW OF. FYI, the majority of jobs lost in coal mines was not due to regulations, but because of automation within the coal mining industry and those jobs are never coming back.

    8. Opened ANYR and approved Keystone and Dakota pipelines. Excellent subject! Let us go there...
    A. Building the Keystone pipeline and opening up the Tar Sands negatively impacted national and local economies: Burning the recoverable tar sands oil will increased the earth’s temperature by a minimum of 2 degree Celsius, which NYU Law School’s Environmental Law Center estimates could permanently cut the US GDP by 2.5%. At the same time state and local economies are already buckling under the real-time economic effects of our nation’s dependence on fossil fuels. In the past two years, the vast majority of U.S. counties ““ 67 percent ““ were affected by at least one of the eleven $1 billion-dollar extreme weather events. Superstorm Sandy alone caused an estimated $80 billion in damage. The drought that affected 80% of US farmland last summer destroyed a quarter of the US corn crop and did at least $20 billion damage to the economy.

    B. The same fossil fuel interests pushing the Keystone pipeline have been cutting, not creating, jobs: Despite generating $546 billion in profits between 2005 and 2010, ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell, and BP reduced their U.S. workforce by 11,200 employees over that period. In 2010 alone, the top five oil companies slashed their global workforce by 4,400 employees “” the same year executives paid themselves nearly $220 million. But at least those working in the industry as a whole get paid high wages, right? Turns out that 40 percent of U.S oil-industry jobs consist of minimum-wage work at gas stations. Instead of bankrolling an industry that is laying off workers and threatening our economic future, isn’t it time to take the billions in subsidies going to oil companies and invest instead in a sector that both creates jobs and protects the planet?

    C. Unemployment has risen: According to Mark Zandi, the Chief Economist of Moody’s Analytics: “Superstorm Sandy wreaked havoc on the job market in November, slicing an estimated 86,000 jobs from payrolls.” In the wake of Hurricane Irene, the number of workers filing unemployment claims in Vermont went from 731 before Irene to 1,331 two weeks afterwards. Hurricane Katrina wiped out 129,000 jobs in the New Orleans region “” nearly 20 percent. For the U.S. economy as a whole, 2011 cost US taxpayers $52 billion.

    D. Poor and working people are disproportionately affected: KXL and projects like it resulted in disproportionately negative impact on already struggling working families. According to a recent report by the Center for American Progress called “Heavy Weather: How Climate Destruction Harms Middle- and Lower-Income Americans, lower-and middle income households are disproportionately affected by the most expensive extreme weather events. Sixteen states were afflicted by five or more extreme weather events in 2011-12. Households in disaster-declared counties in these states earn $48,137, or seven percent below the U.S. median income.

     E. Building the sustainable economy, not the Keystone pipeline, will creates far more jobs: Our nation is in desperate need of jobs. Approving the Keystone pipeline locks our nation into a trajectory of guaranteed job loss and threatens the stability of the US economy. Why keep the “job-killing” course, when the alternative-energy path is already out-performing other sectors of the economy. For example, the solar industry continues to be an engine of job growth — creating jobs six times faster than the overall job market. Research by the Solar Foundation shows a 13 percent growth in high-skilled solar jobs spanning installations, sales, marketing, manufacturing and software development — bringing total direct jobs to 119,000 in the sector. And according to the Political Economy Research Institute at the University of Massachusetts”“Amherst, investment in a green infrastructure program would create nearly four times as many jobs as an equal investment in oil and gas.

    9. We are now a net EXPORTER of oil/gas/coal. In 2016, the U.S. exported crude oil to nearly 30 countries, but the U.S. still imports about eight million BPD of crude oil. EXPLAIN

    10. Tariffs to force free trade. (It is not free if we pay tariffs/subsidies but the other countries do not (ally or not) We have new factories moving to the US because of the tariffs). What Factories have moved back to the US? Please provide some names please. In case you did not know it, Farmers in the midwest are committing suicide because the tarriffs are destroying their businesses. Tarriffs ownly cost Americans more money because it is the US buyer who pays those tariff fees in the cost of the merchandise

    11. Lower taxes....we all got a tax cut. No...We ALL did not get a Tx cut. Are you one of the top 10%? How are Roads, Infrastructure, and yes, that precious wall going to be built? How will servicemen be paid or the VA? Hmmm

    12. Removal of regulations- Which Regulations were cut and why were they good?

    13. Support for Israel. (Embassy, gonglang heights, etc) - gonglang Golan.  What about support for Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and other countries? Why just Israel? The US is not Israel's Puppet. We should be ending all financial support to Israel. Why are we kowtowing to Israel? I did not realize that we were "The United States of Zion"


    14. He did pass a criminal justice reform bill (worked with Van Jones to do it) I stated this...GOOD!!!

    15. Pro life (yes this is about abortion) You mean ANTI-ABORTION,  NOT "PRO-LIFE".  Abortion is still legal. Trump cannot and will not do anything. Nothing has happened yet

    16. Opiod programs introduced - And???? Dermocrats did this as well. Your point? ALL Politicians are engaged in the effort. Trump would need to be more stupid than we believe him to be to not be involved. SideNote: My states senator, Jeane Shaheen (D) was one of those who pushed Trump. This was Bi-Partisan

    17. Pro 2nd amendment I'm Pro Ammedment and do NOT support Trump. Reasonable efforts to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists is not "Anti 2nd Ammendment"

    18. Took back virtually all of ISIS territory - Anyone could make such a bold statement. I am unaware of full US military actions to take out ISIS strongholds. That would actually fall to Russia and Turkey, tbh. ISIS still exists, btw. Trump get's no credit for this


    19. He has passed something aimed at reducing drug costs. It only went into effect July 2019...so we will have to wait an see if it helps. Something? What is this "Something"? He should get together with Bernie Sanders on this Bernie knows how to accomplish this. It's is about time that Trump truly begins relying on experts for advice. Again, I did give him a nod...

    20. He has passed programs to help empower woman in the workplace.
    What (Ivanka helped with this)What kind of response is this? it means nothing with no details, but allow me to do this for you. Please point to policies and legisslation that "empower women in the workplace".

    21. Reforming VA -Really? How. Obama was trying to do that, but Republicans. Doctors at the VA say trhe VA under Trump is a catastrophic failure: 'Worst it's ever been'. He turned Veterans Affairs into an unending nightmare. The people who fought for my country are the ones paying the highest price for his disgusting incompetence.

    22. NATO allies are starting doing their part now - Stats, please. Trump has done nothing but continue to alienate allies. Trump continues to wrongly claim that the United States is paying as much as 90 percent of the cost of operating the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. In reality, the U.S. share of the commonly funded NATO budget is currently just over 22 percent, according to the most recent figures from NATO. Trump’s complaints about NATO spending are actually based on how much the U.S. spends on its own defense compared with what other member nations spend on theirs. Trump is Stupid


    23. Pulled out of Iran deal <--AWFUL IDEA! Guaranteeing Nukes for Iran ASAP. Kowtowing to Israel. The US is not the Jewish puppet state. This is absolutely nothing to brag about and does nothing but give Israel free reign to meddle in the affairs of Iran and start a war. Not only that, but it also plays into the hands of the 9/11 financiers, Iran's arch-rival, Saudi Arabia. We all know how much Trumpy loves his terrorist buddies

    24. Pulled out of Paris Climate Accord. <- TRUMP SHOULD BE REMOVE FROM OFFICE AND EXECUTED FOR THIS ALONE. HE IS DESTROYING THE PLANET FOR OUR CHILDREN.  I would NOT put that as an achievement if I were you.   

    25. Taking on China...LOL Heading us straight into a recession. And he still has his products being made there. Hilarious

    We got nothing now despite all the talking points you have spouted by Trump cheerleaders. 
    Whether it be the right or the Left, a believer or non-believer, no one is above being deceived. Trump is selling his snake oil and no surprise...he is a serpent. Buyer beware.

     


      September 12, 2019 1:48 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    I was TOO late. I tried to warn you.

    BUT AMAZING JOB NONETHELESS.
      September 12, 2019 2:17 PM MDT
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  • 2836

    I figure that If I keep her busy for a while, she won't have much time to be moderating y'all. 




    LOL

    This post was edited by Jon at September 12, 2019 2:26 PM MDT
      September 12, 2019 2:23 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    She's not like that.  She drank the Kool-Aide and she's floating in Trumpland.


    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at September 12, 2019 3:56 PM MDT
      September 12, 2019 2:27 PM MDT
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  • 2836
    LOL

    Kidding aside, I'm sure she is a very nice lady. 
    She has to put up with us! 

    This post was edited by Jon at September 12, 2019 4:23 PM MDT
      September 12, 2019 3:37 PM MDT
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  • 34845
    The only thing Trump I have is my Red MAGA hat. 
      September 12, 2019 4:24 PM MDT
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  • 34845

    1. Conservative judges both circuit courts and SCOTUS <- Conservative Judges to do not reflect the values of the majority of the US population. The primary role of the US Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution. 

    Yes and they have different styles some believing it is "living document" other sticking to the original intent of the people who wrote the laws.  Some think they get to "write the law" by interpreting it differently.


    2. Build a wall
    TRUMP PROMISED THAT MEXICO WOULD PAY FOR THAT WALL. HE LIED. Money is not being take from theUS military and FEMA.

    I do not care who pays as long as it is built. 

    3. Opposing sanctuary city/states. We need to deport criminals. (Obama was able to do this....he did not have lawmakers fighting him to defend criminals) President Barack Obama had republicans fighting him from the day he took office up until the day he left when he was not allowed to appoint an SCJ which was his right to do so as President of the US  

    NO ONE was fight deportations. Certainly not entire states. Defending rapists and criminals over their own citizens disgusting. 

    4. Improve the economy - Yes...Isn't the economy wonderful? President Obama did a GREAT job after that horrific recession caused by republicans despite the obstructionism by republicans for Obama's 8 years in office. He did a fantastic job as the results are still in place today. It is to bad that we are headed into a recession, that the deficit has exploded, and Trump has to use artificial means like trying to keep percentage rates at bay and give unnecessary tax cuts.  2006-7 all over again.  

    OBAMA's economy stunk.  Do we hear about staycations now?  Defict under Obama total more that all before him combined.  NO Party actually cares about the debt.  Save for Ron and Rand Paul that is a moot point.. Just a complaint for the other party which ever it is.....Debt has increase under every President for at least the last 50 yrs. 

    5. NAFTA Trump said he would tear up NAFTA. He lied STRAIGHT-UP  
    He said he would renegotiate it.  He did.  Tell Nancy to vote on it. 

    6. TPP...he pulled us out this is good <--Bernie Sanders said this too. Give him credit like I shall give Trump . I dare you
    Hillary did too when she realized it was good for her campaign.  I will give her credit for opposing NAFTA when Bill signed it.  But yes if Bernie agreed good on him. 

    7. Restart the defunct & antiquated coal industry. (I personally know coal mines that are open now that were not under Obama in S IL. ) PLEASE PROVIDE THE NAME OF THE CLOSED COAL MINES THAT ARE NOW OPEN WHICH YOU PERSONALLY KNOW OF. FYI, the majority of jobs lost in coal mines was not due to regulations, but because of automation within the coal mining industry and those jobs are never coming back.

    I do not know the name.  The are not new they are the same company expanding and reopening the old mines. I was even told that since I am female if I wanted a job all I had to do was go in. I do not live there anymore and am not interested in moving back.  I know there is Sugar Camp, and another.....  I also know Obama told coal miner companies he would bankrupt them if they tried to open new mines this was in 2008....

    8. Opened ANYR and approved Keystone and Dakota pipelines. Excellent subject! Let us go there...  

    You disagee....this is not a surprise.  

    9. We are now a net EXPORTER of oil/gas/coal. In 2016, the U.S. exported crude oil to nearly 30 countries, but the U.S. still imports about eight million BPD of crude oil. EXPLAIN

    This is in debate....I did not know this when  I posted but either way we are closer to it if we are not there yet. Take your pick.  I do not care we are the right track or at the destination because of Trump. 

    • US Is Net Oil Exporter For First ... - Bloomberg Business

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-06/u-s-becomes-a-net-oil-exporter-for...

      Dec 07, 2018 · America turned into a net oil exporter last week, breaking almost 75 years of continued dependence on foreign oil and marking a pivotal -- even if likely brief -- moment toward what U

      • Author: Javier Blas
    • No, The U.S. Is Not A Net Exporter Of Crude Oil - Forbes

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/12/09/no-the-u-s-is-not-a-net-exporter-of...

      Dec 09, 2018 · Net U.S. exports of finished products were 4.2 million BPD. (The U.S. became a net exporter of just finished products in 2011). The U.S. also exports crude oil.

      • Author: Robert Rapier
    • US becomes a net energy exporter in 2020, Energy ... - CNBC

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/us-becomes-a-net-energy-exporter-in-2020-energy-dept...

      Jan 24, 2019 · The country has been a net importer of energy since 1953, according to EIA. U.S. oil production continues to set new records through 2027, when it begins to level off.


     


    10. Tariffs to force free trade. (It is not free if we pay tariffs/subsidies but the other countries do not (ally or not) We have new factories moving to the US because of the tariffs). What Factories have moved back to the US?   

    When did I say back?  there are new Companies in Kentucky and others in aluminum and steel. There maybe some back but I am not looking that hard.  Farmers effected need to apply for the subsidy. I sell some import items....tariffs have not effected my prices at all. 

    11. Lower taxes....we all got a tax cut. No...We ALL did not get a Tx cut. Are you one of the top 10%? 
    Top 10% lol I wish.  But I got a cut. And if my kids were still under 17 I would have got a refund. 

    12. Removal of regulations- Which Regulations were cut and why were they good?

    13. Support for Israel. (Embassy, gonglang heights, etc) - gonglang Golan.  What about support for Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and other countries? Why just Israel? The US is not Israel's Puppet. We should be ending all financial support to Israel. Why are we kowtowing to Israel? I did not realize that we were "The United States of Zion"--- I support Israel. It used to be a bi-partison thing...now not so much. They also support us. We receive much for our support.  Not enough space here to post it and you do not care.  The "US of Zion" shows that.  We give plenty to them all.  


    14. He did pass a criminal justice reform bill (worked with Van Jones to do it) I stated this...GOOD!!!  
    No you said he attempted it.  He succeeded. 

    15. Pro life (yes this is about abortion) You mean ANTI-ABORTION,  NOT "PRO-LIFE".  Abortion is still legal. Trump cannot and will not do anything. Nothing has happened yet

    Semanitics again. But YES I am ANTI-ABORTION.... New regulation made PP stop accepting Title X....that it good with me. So much for them being all woman's health. They are abortion $$$$$$$

    16. Opiod programs introduced - And???? Dermocrats did this as well. Your point? ALL Politicians are engaged in the effort. Trump would need to be more stupid than we believe him to be to not be involved. SideNote: My states senator, Jeane Shaheen (D) was one of those who pushed Trump. This was Bi-Partisan...means Trump approved it. 

    17. Pro 2nd amendment I'm Pro Ammedment and do NOT support Trump. Reasonable efforts to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists is not "Anti 2nd Ammendment"

    18. Took back virtually all of ISIS territory - Anyone could make such a bold statement. I am unaware of full US military actions to take out ISIS strongholds. That would actually fall to Russia and Turkey, tbh. ISIS still exists, btw. Trump get's no credit for this....

    If it happened under Obama I would give him credit (of course the caliphate formed under Obama didn't it...he get credit for that)  


    19. He has passed something aimed at reducing drug costs. It only went into effect July 2019...so we will have to wait an see if it helps. Something? What is this "Something"? He should get together with Bernie Sanders on this Bernie knows how to accomplish this. It's is about time that Trump truly begins relying on experts for advice. Again, I did give him a nod...good

    20. He has passed programs to help empower woman in the workplace.
    What (Ivanka helped with this)What kind of response is this? it means nothing with no details, but allow me to do this for you. Please point to policies and legisslation that "empower women in the workplace".

    Google is your friend.  

    21. Reforming VA -Really? How. Obama was trying to do that, but Republicans. Doctors at the VA say trhe VA under Trump is a catastrophic failure: 'Worst it's ever been'. He turned Veterans Affairs into an unending nightmare. The people who fought for my country are the ones paying the highest price for his disgusting incompetence.

    Obama tried...Trump passed it...more than one bill. 

    22. NATO allies are starting doing their part now - Stats, please. Trump has done nothing but continue to alienate allies. Trump continues to wrongly claim that the United States is paying as much as 90 percent of the cost of operating the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. In reality, the U.S. share of the commonly funded NATO budget is currently just over 22 percent, according to the most recent figures from NATO. Trump’s complaints about NATO spending are actually based on how much the U.S. spends on its own defense compared with what other member nations spend on theirs. Trump is Stupid

    That is what it means to fund NATO...each country is supposed to spend a specific % of their GDP on their defense.  They were not even coming close they have now started to increase to that amount. 


    23. Pulled out of Iran deal <--AWFUL IDEA! Guaranteeing Nukes for Iran ASAP. Kowtowing to Israel. The US is not the Jewish puppet state. This is absolutely nothing to brag about and does nothing but give Israel free reign to meddle in the affairs of Iran and start a war. Not only that, but it also plays into the hands of the 9/11 financiers, Iran's arch-rival, Saudi Arabia. We all know how much Trumpy loves his terrorist buddies

    Again we disagee.... not a surprise. 

    24. Pulled out of Paris Climate Accord. <- TRUMP SHOULD BE REMOVE FROM OFFICE AND EXECUTED FOR THIS ALONE. HE IS DESTROYING THE PLANET FOR OUR CHILDREN.  I would NOT put that as an achievement if I were you.   

    Being part of the PCA does not require any country to reduce their emissions just pay money.....we can reduce our emission without paying money that is giving to China (somehow China qualifies as a receiver)

    25. Taking on China...LOL Heading us straight into a recession. And he still has his products being made there. Hilarious

    We shall see.  Economy has no sign of recession.  Need two quarters of neg growth....we have not had one let alone two. 


    You asked Why close to 90% of Reps support Trump. These are some on the reasons. You naturally disagree that they are even good things.....that explains why you are not a Rep.  
      September 12, 2019 5:11 PM MDT
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  • OMG!  I love grabbing a snack and watching the two of you.


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  • 2836
    Eat up, Baby. I like my boys with meaty bones
      September 12, 2019 6:14 PM MDT
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  • 2836
    "We shall see.  Economy has no sign of recession.  Need two-quarters of neg growth....we have not had one let alone two. "
    Google is not your friend. That is for sure. That is probably why there is an all-out effort by the right to disband it. The right can't control the truth like they do at One, Sinclaire or FOX.  LOL

    The Deficit is out of control. Prove me wrong. Trump is using tactics to manipulate the economy. Facts
    "The bond market is flashing special signs of trouble for the United States, too. For months now, the Treasury yield curve has been inverted, meaning that returns on long-term bonds have fallen below those on short-term bonds. This is generally considered a sign that investors are pessimistic about growth and believe that interest rates in the future will stay low. It has also happened before every single recession over the past 50 years—without generating a single false alarm during that stretch."

    https://slate.com/business/2019/08/recession-economy-bond-market-yield-curve-trade-china-germany.html


    "...You naturally disagree that they are even good things.....that explains why you are not a Rep."

    "Naturally" Why Naturally? I agree with some points.  
    You are correct. I am a left-leaning libertarian and as such, I believe in facts and data.  I'm not a TrumpU graduate. Never was, never will be. 

    Truth be told, the reason there are not more republicans speaking out is they are afraid of Trump's mouth and his rabid followers. They are afraid they will lose their seats. You know...career politicians who look out for their own self-interest rather than that of their constituents. 


    So Once again I say:
    I'm waiting for this jamoke to do something astonishing!
    Something Amazing!
    Something Incredible!
    Something miraculous!
    Something positive!
    Something divine!


    And once more I ask...
    Why would any self-respecting, God-fearing conservative support that jamoke?
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    Yes I have gathered from things you have said that you are a libertarian and yes left leaning. 

    I do wonder how people so concerned about the debt now...were not under Obama and support single payer healthcare. Which would increase debt.   
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  • 2836
    His support is at 90% with his supporters but his job approval rating is at a miserable 44 & 48% depending upon which poll you look at. 

    And what exactly does that 90% mean?  The percentage of Americans who identify as a "Republican" is approximately 37%.

    According to Pew Research, 2020 could see the highest number of voters ever 156,000,000 million.

    If that 37% holds, that means only 57,000,000 people are republicans leaving 99,000,000 people as an independent, democrat, or other

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    According to Gallup both parties hover around 30% with Independents 40%. It comes down to voter turnout and where those voters live. And extra 3M in one state does not win a national election. It keeps one party control of 1 state. 
    My state has no party registration. But in states that do GOP is gaining more registrations...not overcoming the Dems overall in states but they are gaining and the Dems are losing. 
    https://www.governing.com/topics/politics/gov-voter-registration-governor-president-2020-republicans-democrats.html




      September 12, 2019 7:56 PM MDT
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