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If duck is really the brave macho dude he wants you to think he is why did he draft-dodge 5 times to avoid serving in the military?

Posted - October 7, 2020

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  • 34608
    Why did Biden? Mr. If I were in high school I'd beat him up behind the bleachers.  
    The guy challenging voters to pushup matches. 

    He got the same medical deferments Trump did.  Biden got 5 of them, as well. ....(actually 6)... This post was edited by my2cents at October 7, 2020 9:26 AM MDT
      October 7, 2020 5:39 AM MDT
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  • 19937

    Biden did not get the same medical deferment as Trump.  Biden received "1-Y" classification, which meant he could only be drafted in a national emergency due to asthma as a teenager.  Trump got his classification due to bone spurs, but when asked, he couldn't recall on which foot.  All other deferments of both Trump and Biden were because they were students.

      October 7, 2020 9:03 AM MDT
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  • 34608
    Yes.  Trump also got the "1-Y" deferment for bone spurs. Biden got his for asthma.  Yes,  they each also received deferments for being college students "2-S".  Again they got the same type of deferments. Trump got 4 for being a student. And Biden got 5 for being a student.   Trump got one for medical (bone spurs) and Biden also got one for medical (asthma). 

    So I guess if Trump is a 5-time draft dodger that makes Biden a 6-time draft dodger. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-biden-received-multiple-draft-deferments-vietnam/5809482002/
      October 7, 2020 9:25 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    The difference is that Biden actually had asthma.  I doubt Trump had bone spurs.  The two daughters of the podiatrist who gave him a letter about the bone spurs claimed that they did it as a favor to Fred Trump who was their father's landlord.  

    "Critics have noted that Trump was an athlete who enjoyed playing football, baseball, squash, tennis and golf in the years before his medical deferment. "

    "I was the best baseball player in New York when I was young," Trump told interviewer Michael D'Antonio in 2014. "I was always the best at sports." 

    "It was a long time ago," Trump told reporters at a July 2015 campaign rally in Iowa. "I had student deferments and then ultimately had a medical deferment because of my feet. I had a bone spur." 

    When asked which foot had the problem, Trump – who has claimed to have "one of the greatest memories of all time" – told reporters that he could not remember."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/

    This post was edited by SpunkySenior at October 10, 2020 3:03 AM MDT
      October 7, 2020 11:31 AM MDT
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  • 34608
    He says he did. But it was never mentioned in his autobiography.  How he dealt woth having asthma and playing football and being a lifeguard.  Not that it cannot be done.  But it is strange for a politican not use every thing they have to relate to the voters.    I mean he recently claimed to have attended Delaware State...lol. A historically black college.  He never attended it ever.   So I doubt he would not use asthma either. 

    So you doubt Trump's 1-Y deferment....there is plenty of doubt for Biden's as well.  Not that it matters.  No body is going to do anything about either one at this point in time. 
      October 7, 2020 12:17 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    Inhalers allow a person with asthma to breathe well enough to play sports.  If Trump had bone spurs on the bottom of his feet, he wouldn't be able to play sports because all his weight would be on them.

    ADDED:

    "Biden said he got his “start” at DSU during a town hall in Florence, South Carolina, ahead of the 2019 primaries. The video clip has been circulating the internet this week, after a reporter from the Washington Times asked DSU officials if Biden ever attended the school. "

    https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/29/no-joe-biden-did-not-say-he-attended-delaware-state-university/3574205001/ This post was edited by SpunkySenior at October 8, 2020 2:52 AM MDT
      October 7, 2020 12:36 PM MDT
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  • 34608
    I am not saying enhalers can not/do not help.  I am saying is it strange that Biden NEVER mentioned it. Not in his book not in speeches etc.  

    Bone spurs are normally not painful.  Heel pain is normally caused by plantar fasclitis. A muscle pain. And can be treated several ways. So depending on the pain threshold of a person they could easily play a sport. 

    However, only 50% of people who have heel spurs actually feel any pain because of it.

    “A heel spur can be an incidental finding on an X-ray. You can have one even if you don’t have heel pain,” Dr. Davis says. “When we’re treating people, we don’t focus on the spur because often the spur doesn’t have to go away for the pain to resolve,”


    https://health.clevelandclinic.org/6-reasons-you-shouldnt-assume-foot-pain-is-a-heel-spur/



      October 7, 2020 1:07 PM MDT
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  • 16893
    My wife has a spur in her left heel. It hurts her quite a lot. If a man of Trump's age and weight doesn't know which foot the spur is in, 10 bits to one it doesn't exist.
    Incidentally, she didn't have it as a youngster (X-rays taken when she injured that foot 30 years ago don't show it), the joint calcified over time.
      October 7, 2020 9:53 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      October 8, 2020 1:40 AM MDT
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  • 34608
    I did not say all bone spurs are not painful. I posted the link. The link says most 1/2 of bone spurs are not painful and there is treatments for the foot aside from surgically removing the spur. 
    Most spurs are the result of an injury of some kind. The spur results from the body attempting to fix itself. So youngster who is active in sports is morely to injure themselves. 

    I do hope your wife finds a treatment that helps her.  My husband has to use a boot at night sometimes to help his foot. It keeps the foot/ankle in the stretched position during sleep.  It cost us about $30 on Amazon. 
      October 8, 2020 6:21 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    I'm pretty sure that if Trump had bone spurs that didn't hurt during all the time he played sports as a young man, there wouldn't have been any reason for him to consult a doctor about them.  
      October 8, 2020 9:43 PM MDT
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  • 34608
    So obviously there was some  pain or at least discomfort. 
      October 9, 2020 3:45 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    I'm guessing he didn't have any pain at all and that his father asked his tenant (the podiatrist) to give Trump a letter saying he had bone spurs.
      October 9, 2020 9:38 AM MDT
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  • 34608
    And I am guessing Biden did not have asthma as he never mentioned in speeches or his book.   

    As I said it doesn't matter...nothing is going to happen to either man.  They each got deferments.
      October 9, 2020 11:20 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    Did Trump mention his bone spurs in his speeches and books?
      October 9, 2020 11:59 AM MDT
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  • 34608
    Yes I know in an interview with Trump for his biography, he talked about them and even took his socks/shoes off to show the interviewer the bumps on his feet. According to the biographer.  I do not know if it made it into the biography.  I have not read it.  

    I have heard him mention it is speeches.  I do not believe Trump has written an autobiography. 
      October 9, 2020 2:32 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    Trump wouldln't write an autobiography.  Who would he impress by telling everything about himself?
      October 9, 2020 8:27 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      October 8, 2020 2:52 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    :):):)
      October 10, 2020 3:04 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    The word "dodging" implies avoiding something for the wrong reasons.

    As I've said before, the comprehension and extensions of words is quite important.



      October 7, 2020 5:28 PM MDT
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  • 34608
    "comprehension and extensions of words is quite important." 

    Very true. And if you re-read with comprehension you would easily understand why I choose the words I used. 
     
    I simply used the words as phrased in the question.  

    Neither man dodged the draft. The each recieved medical and student deferments. This post was edited by my2cents at October 7, 2020 5:46 PM MDT
      October 7, 2020 5:44 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    So now you state that neither man "dodged the draft."

    What an amazing display of the unspoken motivations of both human beings on your part.

    For me to read any post with comprehension requires that it be intelligible---capable of being understood; comprehensible; clear.     

    I'm pretty good at what I do, but mindreading is something I eschew.
      October 7, 2020 6:19 PM MDT
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  • 34608
    Again re-read my posts. (Still a reoccurring theme)   I am using the words because those are the words used in the question.  So if you have problem the phrase I am not the one who chose it. 
      October 7, 2020 7:34 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    So you admit to spreading error--

    And my eighth amendment rights guarantee I can not be required to re-read anything that has been posted. This post was edited by tom jackson at October 11, 2020 6:04 PM MDT
      October 11, 2020 5:50 PM MDT
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