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Discussion » Questions » Current Events and News » Can someone please, show me where the threat was in the GA Sec of State and Trump call was?

Can someone please, show me where the threat was in the GA Sec of State and Trump call was?

Link to Transcipt of call from CNN...

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html

Posted - January 6

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  • 16926
    Trying to explain that would be a waste of time.  Trump lost and there aren't 11,000 votes to be found for him.
      January 6, 2021 6:31 AM MST
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  • 25703
    So I take that as a cannot find it.

    There are many more than 11000 contested votes.   Just what was ran in the middle of the night after observers and media sent home were over 100K. This post was edited by my2cents at January 7, 2021 3:59 PM MST
      January 6, 2021 7:23 AM MST
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  • 16926
    He can contest all the votes he wants.  The election has been confirmed a Biden win.  He's desperate and spinning his wheels and no amount of challenges is going to change the outcome.  Give up already, which is what everyone told the Democrats when Trump won.
      January 6, 2021 7:38 AM MST
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  • 25703
    Not debating the votes here.  This is about the phone call that supposedly has a threat in it.
    Not deflecting to that. 
      January 6, 2021 7:45 AM MST
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  • 10295
    A criminal investigation, if there is one will determine if extortion and threats were in Mr Trump's phone call to Raffensperger.

    Otherwise it's just anyone's opinion.

    Some legal experts described Trump's speech as extortion and mob talk. (According to BuzzFeed) This post was edited by Kittigate at January 6, 2021 11:49 AM MST
      January 6, 2021 6:55 AM MST
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  • 25703
    Show me were in the text link above. 
      January 6, 2021 7:26 AM MST
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  • 10295
    I scanned the transcript but it was too long and boring for me to find and root anything out to determine if there was threats or coercion by Trump.

    Like I said I'll leave it to the criminal investigation people to determine.
      January 6, 2021 7:44 AM MST
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  • 25703
    So you did not find it either. Thank you. 

    I actually listened to the call...there is no threat there.
      January 6, 2021 7:46 AM MST
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  • 10295
    Do you know if there is a criminal investigation happening? If not then I guess there was not enough substance to Trump's wording to say 'coercion' or ' threats were implied.
      January 6, 2021 7:53 AM MST
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  • 25703
    There is but it is about the leaking of the recording.  Not a supposed threat.
      January 6, 2021 8:11 AM MST
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  • 10295
    Doesn't seem like any classified material in the recording to say a leak should be investigated.
      January 6, 2021 8:45 AM MST
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  • 25703
    Any private call with any President is automatically considered privileged information and sometimes classified information.  Leaking any call is considered a Breach of National security unless it is specifically authorized. 
      January 6, 2021 9:27 AM MST
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  • 10295
    And you are providing a link to the material to encourage people to peruse 'privilaged' or 'classified'  information.
      January 6, 2021 9:52 AM MST
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  • 25703
    It is already leaked.  Yes it is a link to leaked privileged information.  I am providing it to have someone show me where this supposed threat is at....
      January 6, 2021 11:27 AM MST
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  • 10295
    So what would be the deal if everyone on AM agreed they perceived a threatening/coercive tone to Mr Trump's talk?

    What would it amount to?
      January 6, 2021 11:55 AM MST
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  • 25703
    Unless they are threatened by President Trump's normal tone....I would think they were lying.  
    Tone was the same as Trump uses daily.  I listened to the call. 
      January 6, 2021 12:23 PM MST
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  • 35923
    1. There is a threat only if the subject of it percieves it as such. Did the GA AG consider it so?
    2. It is the media who called it a threat.
    3. My opinion doesn't matter.
      January 6, 2021 7:59 AM MST
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  • 25703
    Then it should be easy to spot this threat. 

    Media is anti-Trump....they call rioters "peaceful protesters"....and Trump supporters just a bunch of racists. 
      January 6, 2021 8:10 AM MST
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  • 2181
    Yup, I agree. :)
      January 6, 2021 9:29 AM MST
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  • 60
    Element 99 wrote, "1. There is a threat only if the subject of it percieves it as such. Did the GA AG consider it so?"
    There has to be more than just a perceived threat for a statement to be considered a threat.  There has to also be language that can be taken as a threat.  You can't just say someone has threatened you as a result of them having a conversation with you.
      January 7, 2021 4:07 PM MST
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  • 35923
    True, but I take thing literally. I know about the nuances of our language, but won't give credence to those who are trying to threaten me with mere inuendo. "When the fox gnaws, smile." The question still remains...did the AG perceive it as such, or just blow it off as the rantings of a maniac? Good point, though.
      January 7, 2021 6:59 PM MST
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  • 2181
    I just listened to the phone call and I didn't hear any threats of any kind from President Trump against anyone. He presented the data he had to the Georgia officials and all he asked was that those involved get together, compare data, and resolve this as soon as possible.
      January 6, 2021 9:27 AM MST
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  • 25703
    Yep that is exactly what was said. 
      January 6, 2021 9:38 AM MST
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