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Did they not learn with what happened in Germany? My only hope is that these refugees don't treat women like they did in Germany. I would hate for them to victimize someone knowing it could have been stopped if they hadn't been allowed in America. We refuse to screen anyone these days not out of respect but more because of political sentiment.... they could be anybody.
Yeah, great plan.
How many people currently living in the US are unemployed? Or do you think that they should just be supported by those unemployed people?
Great idea!
Bring on the drug-resistant TB, the measles and all manner of other diseases that we currently have under control here.
And lets not forget that we have 25-million already unemployed in the States. What's another 10,000? Or do already working Americans get booted from their jobs to find employment for those refugees?
Probably not all are unemployed though. Perhaps 1% will be coming under cover of refugee status with money to buy firearms and explosives to commit acts of terrorism on US soil. But what's a hundred more terrorists? Right?
Re: "We refuse to screen anyone these days..."
How do you know this is true? What is your evidence?
The US has a net immigration influx of approximately 800,000 people per year.
Adding 10,000 Syrian refugees to that total is a 0.125% change. The chances of that making a significant impact on employment (in an economy where we already have a 20 million+ available worker surplus) is essentially nil.
Wow, can you come up with any more reasons that stem from bigotry rather then any rational and proportional analysis?
Keep trying, I'm sure if you channel your fear and hatred, you can imagine more reasons....;-D...
Meanwhile, just for poops and giggles, check out where most of the Syrian refugees are in the world.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/09/world/welcome-syrian-refugees-countries/
If Denmark (population 5.6 million) can handle 11,000 Syrian refugees, somehow I think the United States (population 318 million) can handle 10,000.
All of the arguments for applying special rules (or an outright ban) to Syrian refugees boil down to irrational fear/hatred of F***ING HADJIS.
I can offer proof of what makes me feel that way certainly:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/911_TerrTrav_Monogra...
"When pressed about a fingerprint database, he stated that it will be “challenging” to vet those Syrian refugees who have “never crossed our radar screen.”
Think about that: no data, and no way to authenticate people or documents through a Syrian government the Obama administration has been trying to overthrow.
With the slaughtering of innocent lives at the hands of Islamic radical terrorists worldwide, we should be extremely alarmed at the thought of tens of thousands of improperly vetted refugees entering America.
It is the federal government’s job to ensure our safety and to address our vulnerabilities to danger, including our sanctuary cities. While these “safe havens” are designed to make people illegally here feel secure, they are also harboring violent cartels and providing cover for dangerous terrorists, and ISIS intends to take advantage of the sanctuary. This week, they threatened to spill American blood in a sanctuary city called Washington, D.C. There’s surely nothing more unpleasant than having someone make you feel like an unwanted refugee while you are cutting someone’s head off.
Of course, Gohmert has a valid point here. After all, when the FBI says that they can’t vet everyone, then how does the president get off telling us that they’re all vetted?
Maybe the vetting process looks like this.
Investigator: Are you a terrorist?
“Refugee”: Allah Akbar!! I mean…no.
Investigator: Are you sure?
“Refugee”: Would I lie? Of course not, so I can’t be a terrorist.
Investigator: Oh, alright then. Welcome to America!
Yeah…we’re not feeling warm and tingly over here, are we?
Gohmert, however, wasn’t done just talking about the lack of investigation of the “refugees” either. Nope, he also pointed out that the demographics of the refugees are more than a little weird.
The UN Refugee Agency’s own data from January through September of 2015 said 72% of the refugees from the Mediterranean countries were men. Yet the UN data also indicates that of all the other 43 million refugees in the world, about 91% are women and children.
We reported on this back in early September, as a matter of fact. Honestly, if this one tidbit of information doesn’t set off alarm bells, especially after ISIS all but bragged that they would use these people as a smoke screen to enter the West, you’re seriously not listening."
https://samepagenation.com/done-no-president-obama-refugees-not-vet...
"Motorists understand the need to find the easiest and quickest routes to their destinations. They listen to traffic reports on their car radios or have GPS systems installed in their cars that alert them to traffic jams so they can detour as needed.
Terrorists similarly seek the easiest way to enter the U.S. that exposes them to the least risk of identification and capture. Even without a fatally flawed refugee resettlement program, there is no shortage of alternative means for terrorists to enter the country and embed themselves.
There must be integrity to the entire immigration system. My recent article for FrontPage Magazine, “Border Security and the Immigration Colander,” compared all of the vulnerabilities of the immigration system to the holes in a colander.
The Visa Waiver Program represents a gaping hole. It provides aliens from 38 countries the ability to bypass the screening process conducted when visa applications are adjudicated at our embassies and consulates, which provide our first contact with aliens seeking admission into the U.S. There are at least a half-dozen enhancements to national security to be found in an effectively administered visa adjudications process that are lost when aliens are not required to receive a visa before seeking to enter our country. I addressed these in detail in my March 10, 2015, article for FrontPage Magazine, “Ignoring the 9/11 Commission’s Warnings – Even as terrorists expand operations in Europe.”
Additionally, the staff of attorneys and federal agents who were assigned to the 9/11 Commission issued a report known as the “9/11 and Terrorist Travel - Staff Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States” that focused specifically on the ability of the terrorists to travel around the world, enter the U.S. and ultimately embed themselves here as they went about their deadly preparations. Page 54 under the title “3.2 Terrorist Travel Tactics by Plot” contained this:
Thus, abuse of the immigration system and a lack of interior immigration enforcement were unwittingly working together to support terrorist activity. It would remain largely unknown, since no agency of the United States government analyzed terrorist travel patterns until after 9/11. This lack of attention meant that critical opportunities to disrupt terrorist travel and, therefore, deadly terrorist operations were missed.
On May 11, 2006, I testified at a hearing conducted by the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations of the Committee on International Relations on the topic, “Visa Overstays: Can We Bar the Terrorist Door?”
To the issue of plugging all holes, consider that it only takes one hole in the bottom of a boat to cause it to sink. The solution to the hole in the bottom of a boat is to plug that hole and not drill more holes hoping the water will magically flow out of the additional holes.
Our leaders must strive to not just make our immigration system water-tight, but air-tight, considering that our national security and lives of Americans hang in the balance."
http://www.capsweb.org/blog/immigration-and-terrorism-%E2%80%93-it%...
I'm not sure where you get suddenly "special rules" as people for years have been saying that we have problems with immigration dating back to Sept. attacks. No matter how many people die at the hands of people who could have just easily been sent back even when they had red flags on their report... it's still all the same and never gets fixed.
Then again I bet it's easier to cast doubt on the people who want better immigration policies as irrational fear/hatred than deal with the problem because you know that sort of requires one to do some hard work.
Just what we need.......Thumbs down.
depends on who they are , just because someone is a refugee doesnt mean theyre bad people
Given that your objections COULD apply to any of the 800,000 or so immigrants the US will accept in the next year or so, rather than just the 10,000 Syrian refugees it plans to accept, I think your argument still essentially boils down to, 'F***ING HADJIS! BE AFRAID!"
@M-unicorn -- I am all for consistent and effective immigration rules which apply to ALL potential immigrants to the US. Calling for a tightening of rules just for Syrian refugees is applying "collective guilt" to a particular group of people...and that's bigotry, pure and simple.
I'm sure people back in the 1950s and 1960s had justifications for why "Coloreds" had to use separate drinking fountains as well.
That depends. Where are we putting them? They may be in worse danger here in AMERIKA than if we left them out of here.
OS.. wow you are like a parrot I never suspected for a minute that you would respond with the same generic answer you give everyone on here, no matter their reasoning or if they got a point. You sure got me.
I will never feel ashamed for wanting safer borders no matter the group. People's lives matter to me and it has nothing to do with Muslims but extremists who just so happen to be Islamic and believe me it's not like I want them to be Islamic or anything....
It's just how it is turning out to be at the present moment and NONE of that is my fault.
Mahalo for your reply OS . That is always and only the forever reason isn't it? Thank you for your reply. It is logical. Not everyone can handle it! :)
Thank you for your reply MaCC and Happy Sunday to thee. I hope you are never a refugee who finds no one to take you in so you wander aimlessly without a country forever
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Some people are afraid of everyone who isn't just like them. Scairy cats. Thank you for your reply pearl! :)
Well if one wants ISIS living next door then i guess they will have their thumbs up..
Oh If you want a logical angle against and you can put your emotional based hindrance aside read on..
The money that the USA would spend in the USA supporting 10,000 refugees could support 100,000 refugees in camps in Northern Iraq Kurdistan or Jordan or Turkey.. So in pure cost benefit terms for a refugee those who support taking 10,000 refugees as immigrants are actually taking money away support from 90,000 people..
That is an AWESOME why excon. Thank you for providing that to us. I appreciate it a lot! As usual! ((hugs))
