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What is happening in Europe? More vaxxed death than unvaxxed deaths...with this follow in other countries?

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland



Deaths from all causes. 

Blue line is UNVACCINATED
Brown line is VACCINATED


Posted - November 22, 2021
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  • 2706
    I would imagine it will. As long as they continue to use people, young and old alike, as forced lab experiments with vaccines that have been proven unsafe in far too many cases. And many people know that an FDA-approved medication doesn't always mean it's safe. As always, my opinion only.
      November 22, 2021 7:27 AM MST
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  • 34432
    Pretty scary outlook. 

    Just have to watch TV and all the class-action lawsuits over FDA-approved meds to see they are not always safe. 

    I am glad not one else who I am close to is willing to take the jab.   I did lose a close family member in Feb to the jab.  This was before I knew what I know now.  And I really did not try to influence the person in either direction. Just said "You should do what you want.  But you did have it already so you should have antibodies already.  The doctors convinced them to take it." This post was edited by my2cents at November 22, 2021 11:04 PM MST
      November 22, 2021 8:55 AM MST
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  • 17614
    Shocking!

    I'm waiting for some more of that good Biden wisdom saying, This is becoming a pandemic of the vaccinated.  This post was edited by Thriftymaid at November 22, 2021 12:50 PM MST
      November 22, 2021 12:45 PM MST
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  • 34432
    And his patience is wearing thin.....
      November 22, 2021 12:51 PM MST
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  • 17614
    That one made me say a bad word!!!!
      November 22, 2021 1:11 PM MST
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  • 13277
    But Trump saved lives by fast-tracking the vaccines, didn't he? Are you now saying that his vaccines are no good and he's responsible for killing people?
      November 22, 2021 1:50 PM MST
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  • 34432
    Trump did not make the jab.  He made gov money available for the companies to speed up the process.   And Trump would not mandate people to get those jabs.

    Anyone mandating the jab has blood on their hands. 
      November 22, 2021 3:36 PM MST
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  • 13277
    Then he didn't really save lives, did he?
      November 22, 2021 3:51 PM MST
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  • 34432
    I my opinion no.  Not with the jab. It neither stops a person from getting nor spreading the disease. And the side effects some folks are getting are awful.  

    Trump did prevent travel to US early.  Which did indeed save lives.  He did get what St Fauci etc claimed they needed.  Which is all he could do as POTUS. 
      November 23, 2021 4:26 AM MST
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  • 17614
    All I'll say about the vaccines is that I don't like what I'm reading about them. 
      November 22, 2021 10:41 PM MST
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  • 34432
    Let's Go Brandon!!!!
      November 22, 2021 3:37 PM MST
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  • 17614
    That's such a funny thing and the story of how it happened is too.  My governor signed some legislation to push back on vaccine mandates and he did it up in Brandon (Florida).  He has a sense of humor.  I think he's the first one.  :)
      November 22, 2021 10:43 PM MST
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  • 34432
    It is funny.  We are making plaque right now to get in on some it before it fades out.   

    DeSantis would be a great VP for Trump and POTUS later.   I wish my Governor has half the guts he does. This post was edited by my2cents at November 23, 2021 4:59 PM MST
      November 23, 2021 4:15 AM MST
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  • 551
    The most likely reason is that the unvaccinated group mostly belong to the younger age cohorts and comprise mainly people who are in a good or tolerable state of health. The vaccinated group, I expect, will include a higher percentage of people in their 50s and those who already known to have long-term health problems that could have killed them at any time. Since the death rates are not broken down by age cohort or health status, and since we are not being shown comparable data from a "normal" (pre-pandemic) year, it is impossible to draw any conclusions.
      November 22, 2021 1:37 PM MST
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  • 16826
    And that the ratio of vaccination is over 70%, so there are far fewer unvaccinated folks to infect. Those figures actually indicate that more unvaccinated are dying PER CAPITA.
    "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics" (Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain). The above is a perfect example of too much stew from one oyster.
      November 22, 2021 3:19 PM MST
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  • 34432
    Posted link to data above..feel free to crunch the numbers all you want.
      November 23, 2021 4:39 AM MST
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  • 11087
    This is for deaths from ALL causes. There needs to be a lot more information before drawing any conclusions, including vaccination rate, number of Covid-related deaths, and number of vaccine-related deaths. 
      November 22, 2021 9:00 PM MST
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  • 34432
    I posted the link to the data above. Feel free tl crunch the numbers. 
      November 23, 2021 4:38 AM MST
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  • 11087
    The link you provided does not have the appropriate  supporting data. Feel free to provide a link that does.
      November 23, 2021 8:02 AM MST
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  • 34432
    You have to download the data. It is broke down by vax status, age, etc.  As I said if YOU want to crunch the numbers. 
      November 23, 2021 12:49 PM MST
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  • 11087
    I did look at the downloaded data  which ONLY provides detail by vax status and age, NOT by cause of death. It supports the chart but does not allow for any meaningful conclusion to be made regarding whether being vaccinated or unvaccinated  contributed to, or prevented deaths. Crunching the numbers, as you advise, doesn't change anything. 
      November 23, 2021 5:25 PM MST
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  • 34432
    There is data for all deaths and for covid deaths by age and number of jabs. 
      November 23, 2021 5:47 PM MST
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