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What if the entire concept of grammar rules didn't exist at all?



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Posted - November 23, 2016

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  • 3934
    Mamu dogface banana patch!
      November 23, 2016 10:19 PM MST
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  • All languages have some form of unwritten macro-"rules" that govern the basic functions of the language and allow one to judge what's "correct". (e.g. English speakers know "I the store to went" is wrong). If rules like that went away, the language would fail in its function to facilitate communication. What makes these types of rules interesting is that all native speakers know them intrinsically; they don't have to be taught in school. The most grammatically illiterate English speaker knows basic word order and knows that a sentence like "I the store to went" is nonsensical (even though it's the correct word order for Japanese).

    Other grammatical rules that are less about basic functionality and more about adhering to a standardized elevated form of the language are less crucial (one can still communicate effectively by saying "we was going to the store" even though it's not standard), but loss of rules like this would mean we'd all have to learn other dialects to read and understand each other. Having grammatical rules to stick to ensures there's one "proper" form of the language that we all recognize as such and use as a bridge between dialect groups. 

      November 23, 2016 10:21 PM MST
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  • 11006
    I learn so much from you, Nevan and I find it fascinating. Thank you.
      November 24, 2016 4:08 AM MST
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  • You're very welcome :D
      November 24, 2016 9:26 AM MST
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  • 17596
    Shut yo mouth!!!  I can't even force myself to imagine it.
      November 23, 2016 11:44 PM MST
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  • 53509
    Lol!

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      November 24, 2016 6:14 AM MST
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  • 44619
    That's "mowf".
      November 24, 2016 7:48 AM MST
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  • 17261


    Having a nightmare again..?
      November 24, 2016 12:32 AM MST
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  • 53509
    I tossed and turned all night!



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      November 24, 2016 6:21 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Oh my. This is serious. This is... This is...

      November 24, 2016 6:33 AM MST
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  • 53509
    it be like crae crae
      November 24, 2016 6:33 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Eye now wright?
      November 24, 2016 6:34 AM MST
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  • 53509
    yea huh ?
      November 24, 2016 6:37 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Disturbing it would be.
      November 24, 2016 6:38 AM MST
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  • 53509
    stoppit allredy ,yore like stalking me
      November 24, 2016 6:39 AM MST
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  • 17261
    No, I'm here listening to your reoccurring nightmares. They are to be taken seriously. Mhmm.
      November 24, 2016 6:46 AM MST
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  • Bird eating spider .... without a hyphen in there somewhere it can get a bit difficult in understanding ...
      November 24, 2016 12:37 AM MST
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  • 5614
    "We b like soundin ignorant?"
      November 24, 2016 12:39 AM MST
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  • 3934
    What you said is perfectly gramattical in African-American Vernacular English.

    It's only because AAVE is a dialect associated with Nig...er, low-status African Americans that people believe it signifies ignorance.
      November 24, 2016 1:04 AM MST
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  • 53509
    You misspelled the word 'grammatical'.

    :|
      November 24, 2016 6:28 AM MST
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  • 2148
    He's probably being sarcastic. Lol:)
      November 24, 2016 6:29 AM MST
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  • 3934
    @Andy B -- Do you mean me or O-youknow?

    If you mean me, not at all. I was being as serious as a preacher.

    A key principle one learns if one studies ANY linguistics at all is there are no "better" languages/dialects. The only reason people think so is because some languages/dialects are associated with groups with  high social status (French, "CNN English") and others are associated with groups with low social status (Hungarian, African-American Vernacular English).

    Perhaps O-unkow was joking, but his joke highlighted how ignorant most people are with the real principles governing language. This post was edited by OldSchoolTheSKOSlives at November 24, 2016 11:05 AM MST
      November 24, 2016 11:03 AM MST
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  • 2148
    Old School, I meant you. As I pointed out recently on another discussion (which you ignored), you have a habit of deliberately misspelling words to annoy others. I suspect you do it to be sarcastic. If not, why else do you do it?
      November 24, 2016 7:36 PM MST
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  • 3934
    @Andy B -- Um, it's called a "typo", which is common slang contraction of "typographical error."

    That has nothing to do with my lampooning those who lack the self-awareness to recognize their attacks on the political left/defense of the political right are based upon ideology, not evidence or consistency of standards.
      November 24, 2016 7:56 PM MST
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