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Stu Spelling Bee

How do you explain that President Obama, a black man, did better in 2008 with the white working class than Hillary Clinton did in 2016?

Go hang out in a bar in a working class town, where the factories have moved to Mexico or China, where half the storefronts on Main Street are shuttered and a way of life that was once valued is ruined. What was once FDR country is now Trump country.

Posted - November 29, 2016
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  • 3934
    The strongest predictors of being a Trump voter in 2016

    1) Being a Republican

    2) Being highly sexist

    3) Being significantly racist

    4) Having strong authoritarian tendencies

    Also, the demographics of Trump voters suggest it is NOT the forgotten industrial workers who voted for him. It was middle class people (media income about $72,000/year) who liked what Trump was selling.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/sexism-is-one-of-the-strongest-predictors-of-trump-support.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/12/a-massive-new-study-debunks-a-widespread-theory-for-donald-trumps-success/


    This post was edited by OldSchoolTheSKOSlives at November 29, 2016 8:29 PM MST
      November 29, 2016 6:37 PM MST
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  • 2327
    Obama did so well because he's a phenomenal speaker, who knew what dems and undecided voters wanted to hear. He was a candidate that people wanted to leave the house so they can go out and vote for him. And, also, people wanted to make history by sending a message out to the world that times have changed. If presidents could run for a third term, he would have beaten Trump, imo. 
      November 29, 2016 6:54 PM MST
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  • 53509
    Why is his ethnicity relevant, and whether it's relevant or not, why did you stress it in framing your question?  (There aren't very many people who do NOT know his ethnicity.)
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      November 29, 2016 7:07 PM MST
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  • 13277
    Only as it relates to the ethnicity of some who voted for him but not for Clinton.
      November 29, 2016 8:31 PM MST
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  • 2465
    I agree.  I don't know why ethnicity matters either. For some reason people want to mention it but they somehow forget the fact that he's also half white. 
      November 30, 2016 12:45 AM MST
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  • 5614
    Back then there was hope but how long does hope last?
      November 29, 2016 8:41 PM MST
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  • 2960
    Oh my. I don't really follow such things. People should just be nice.
      November 29, 2016 9:59 PM MST
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  • 17261
    Oh no, he is black? Oh jeez. Must be colourblindness, what else could it be? Only thing I wonder about, how did he hide it over two terms?
      November 29, 2016 10:58 PM MST
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  • 2465
    What else could he be you ask?  Half white is what else. Good lord. 
      November 30, 2016 12:49 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Having troubles reading, or do you just look for something to tell me because you didn't like my comment for you inside your question? I did NOT ask what else could HE be. Anything else ProblemCh1ld? This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at November 30, 2016 8:06 AM MST
      November 30, 2016 1:06 AM MST
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  • 2465
    It doesn't change the fact that your "Oh no, he is black" is misleading because it gives the impression he's ALL black rather than half and half, so to speak. It would be just as inaccurate as saying he's a white man. 
      November 30, 2016 6:03 AM MST
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  • 17261
    Whatever. I see sarcasm is a waste on you, but then again... Oh well... Nah... You're not my ProblemCh1ld. Have a lovely day ProblemCh1ld. Ta ta for now.
      November 30, 2016 6:11 AM MST
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  • 2465
    Please, don't rush back from you well deserved ta ta. You ARE correct in that I am NOT yours. We should all be grateful for even the smallest of miracles. Now, feel free to attend to that ta ta of yours. 
      November 30, 2016 6:23 AM MST
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  • According to Obama, he won where Hillary lost because he hit the campaign trail a lot harder than she did. He said she should have campaigned in more places in the swing states.
      November 30, 2016 2:54 AM MST
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